Bertie’s Bowl….Sports Campus Ireland
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Interesting watching the situation in the UK where the government has refused to bail out the FA to allow them to build Wembly. Their inital cost projections have gone through the roof as well.
They also would be in a position to hold more world class events, something that will not happen at Abbotstown.
Is’nt it turning out to be a wonderful stadium now however,and we really need it but it would never get the planning permission today if it was starting from scratch, such is the air of pessimism.
deepnote – it’s not a matter of the seating. The point is that a 400m running track won’t fit around a GAA pitch at all.
SiobhThat’s right it won’t fit around a GAA field, but it will fit in the stadium and could replace the GAA field on a temporary basis for an Olympic Games (3 weeks actual events, 2 for Olympics, 1 for Paralympics plus set up and take down)or world championships. Obviously this has to work within the GAA event schedule. Other than such major events you will never need a very large capacity athletics stadium and others around the country (including Santry)would do on a normal basis. The good thing about Croke is that the sight lines will work for athletics and not be compromised the way they were for the Foster/HOK Wembley scheme. The end result is messier than Stade de France where you can do a change over in about a week by moving the lower tier seating in or out, but it is also significantly cheaper.
now then…who landed the project management assignment for Campus Ireland? Interviews were last week.
How many bidders will there be? Bouygue has dropped out (MOLA on their team). Two serious bidders? Only one? Trouble?
First Images of Swimming pool i’ve seen apart from physical model.
http://www.ajplus.co.uk/news/news_article/?pid=3&sid=49&aid=15922&channelid=4&NewsComingFrom=architecture&dDate=31+May+2001+11%3A38%3A14I’m quite impressed, it looks pretty cool so as not like your average leisure facility. I hope it will look a little more colourful when it is built – it looks a little ‘dull’ i.e. predominance of grey. Is it the pictures or, is it just my computer screen?
Still, looks good, hope they plonk in a few trees and (contemporary/stylish) seating around it as well.
oh yes, black and white are so yesterday in buildings everywhere and Ireland must keep up
black is still the right thing for serious desingers to wear, grey hair of course is an excellent accessory, silly old male designers must have slicked back gray hair in a pony tail unless they are too bald in which case they have to be very close cropped or shaved
so who won the PM job for the B-Bowl?
hear there are two serious bidders: Multiplex and Bovis Lend Lease with Ellerbe Becket and HOK Sport respectively as the main players with Dublin architects in support – anyone know who is teamed with the giants?
After six weeks of work, our consortia have pulled out. So perhaps it was a blessing not to have been shortlisted. No complaint though and the letters to the Irish Times have been worth reading.
Alan Dunlop
Gordon Murray and Alan Dunlop ArchitectsIn fairness Jas,with regards to Croke Park, for GAA fans money really isn’t an issue, why else would people turn down the money they could be making if they opened their doors to other sports, there’s a broader picture here.
From the London Sunday Times Irish edition some insight on activities at CSID:
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/06/03/stiireire01006.html?
For your interest, The consortia briefing my own practice: Gordon Murray and Alan Dunlop Architects has just backed out leaving us with about six to eight weeks work done at risk. No complaints though really, it’s an interesting project and would have helped us strengthen links with Architects in Ireland and we wish it good luck. However, the charge of Cronyism makes no sense to us, for although I think we were the only Scots practice on the list, Ireland looks, as an outsider, to be well represented
Laura Magahy take cover, now the Irish Times is after you
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2001/0604/hom20.htmonly 2 weeks to go until the consortia turn in their bids
no public word yet on selection of the project manager for CSID, one hears DLE and a Dublin team are still in the running
so with the statement to Europe and our own concerns about prosperity am I the only one that cares about this crazy project? which is only perhaps the best project in the world at the moment for architects – or do you disagree? heard BKD were with Bovis Lend Lease – is this true? who else? heard de blacam, bucholz, and mcgarry are with Multiplex – is this true? help me here arch friends, we need fax, or perhaps even opinion, well at least from 37 pc of you
I imagine the architects still involved will have agreed confidentiality and exclusivity clauses with their respective consortia. The teams form a significant part of the bid. I would expect therefor that you are unlikely to find out until submission. And you’re right, it is the most interesting project around.
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