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January 2, 2010 at 1:35 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773394apellesParticipant
The design on the sanctuary floor mosaic is quite similar to that on the sanctuary floor in Cobh Cathedral. Was it designed by Ashlin? As far as I’m aware Ashlin only done external works on the Portico but I’ll try & find out more about that.
Rumors abound that the limestone columns are beyond repair & are apparently not needed to support a new roof..Is this even possible? http://www.face.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=63747235#post63747235
December 31, 2009 at 5:46 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773392apellesParticipantI’d never seen this one before..look at the superb sanctuary floor.
Before & after Ashlin’s portico of six pillars & triangular pediment.
December 31, 2009 at 4:43 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773391apellesParticipantAn interesting take from the St. Conleth’s Catholic Heritage Association.http://catholicheritage.blogspot.com/2009/12/majestic-irish-cathedral-destroyed-by.html
The Cathedral itself is a Neo-Classical structure begun in 1840 by Bishop William O’Higgins. The inspiration for the design by Joseph B. Keane was said to be the Madeleine Church in Paris, the Pantheon and St. John Lateran – although he executed a similar design for St. Mary’s in Clonmel.
The cathedral is cruciform consisting of a nave, two transcripts, two aisles and a spacious sanctuary. The nave contains 24 large columns local limestone and windows by the noted Harry Clarke. The original high altar was of French marble. The erection of this building cost £60,000 which was a vast sum to collect during a time of evictions, persecutions and famine.
The completion of St. Mel’s was deferred for ten years due to the effects of the famine. The roof and tower were completed under Dr. Kilduff who succeeded Dr. O’Higgins in 1853. Bishop Kilduff blessed the Cathedral on 24th September, 1856.
Longford Cathedral ‘Before’Under Bishop Woodlock, most noted for his contribution to the cause of the Catholic University, further additions were made and the Solemn Consecration took place on the 19th May, 1893, the fifth-third anniversary of the laying of the foundation stone. The belfrey was completed in 1860 after a design of John Bourke. The portico in 1893 to the design of the great George Ashlin.Longford Cathedral ‘After’An Taisce, the Irish Heritage Trust, described it thus: “……… St. Mel’s Cathedral, begun to the design of Joseph Keane in 1840. While the portico lacks the sophistication of Keane’s great Dominican Pope’s Quay Church in Cork, the interior, by contrast, is now regarded as noblest of all Irish Classical church interiors. It is designed in the style of an early Christian basilica, with noble Grecian Ionic columns and a curved apse. It also shares the remarkable distinction of being the only major Catholic Church in Ireland to have actually been improved by internal reordering, when the fussy later altar was removed and replaced by a simple modem table altar, which accords harmoniously with the early Christian style of the interior. The tower and portico give a striking approach to the town from Dublin.”Longford Sanctuary ‘Before’In the 1970s, the noted Cathedral wreckovator, Cathal Cardinal Daly, to whose credit Belfast and some of Armagh Cathedrals’ present state can also be put, was Bishop of Ardagh and Clonmacnoise. The high altar and stalls were removed, leaving the Sanctuary without any clear focus, the present altar being too small to make any visual impact. The insertion of a tapestry to add impact to the ‘President’s Chair’ where the high altar and tabernacle once stood, is singularly ineffective.Longford Sanctuary ‘After’The words of Desmond, Cardinal Connell, who was Archbishop of Dublin at the time, during an interview with The Sunday Business Post, published on 4th March, 2001. Asked whether he had any plans to build a cathedral in Dublin. (At present, the Anglican Church of Ireland has two cathedrals in the capital – Christ Church, the diocesan cathedral, and St Patrick’s, the national cathedral. The Catholic Church has only a `pro-cathedral’) reresponded: ‘None whatsoever. If I had the wealth of Croesus itself, I would not build a cathedral because liturgy and architecture at the moment are in such confusion that anything that would be built at this stage would be rejected in a very short time.’
The restoration of St. Mel’s is greatly to be hoped for, both a physical and a moral restoration, an Irish Church rising from the ashes.
Bishop Colm O’Reilly, one of only a handful of Irish Bishops to have celebrated the Traditional Latin Mass publicly in recent years, has promised that St. Mel’s will be restored but Bishop O’Reilly is 75 on 11th January, 2010. By that time, there will be three vacant Sees in Ireland (six, depending on your point of view). The question is whether the restoration of Longford Cathedral will be in the hands of another ‘Godfather of Irish Sanctuaries’ or a Bishop after the Holy Father’s own heart. Only time will tell. Qualis Pastor, talis Parochia.December 29, 2009 at 11:59 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773387apellesParticipantIt would be incredible to envisage for one moment that St. Mel’s Cathedral will be restored to anything like its previous incarnation or former glory..that somehow from the ashes a building as venerable will again arise..I’m not saying its not possible but we have to look at the track record here.
I pray they make good use of & re-instate the original high altar and pulpit which were relegated to the crypt during the Ray Carroll makeover. Though some pressure may have to be applied to achieve this.This pic is doing the rounds on some chat rooms…You can see how the limestone column to the right has deteriorated from the intense heat of the fire.
December 26, 2009 at 3:00 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773379apellesParticipantThere’s speculation that the oil boiler may have exploded..
December 25, 2009 at 1:40 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773376apellesParticipantDevastating fire at St Mel’s Cathedral, Longford.http://www.longfordleader.ie/news/Devasting-fire-at-St-Mel39s.5938802.jp
December 25, 2009 at 10:51 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773375apellesParticipantSaddest Christmas day I can remember.
December 22, 2009 at 10:19 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773372apellesParticipantI know Prax put this up before but I thought I’d stick it up again, it being the silly season an all….:Sir Humphrey Appleby explains the modernist in Church of England terms…:D
December 19, 2009 at 2:25 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773366apellesParticipantThe Sacred made Real. This was on “The Culture Show” on BBC2 thursday evening..the Exhibition runs until Jan 24th next, at The National Gallery, London.
I believe it shows a new found appreciation for what had been previously ‘consigned to the bombfire’.December 16, 2009 at 2:23 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773364apellesParticipantYou can get there by going here..http://www.skyscrapercityshowthread.php?t=839410&page=5
December 16, 2009 at 2:11 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773363December 16, 2009 at 1:14 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773362apellesParticipantCorreggio’s famous frescoes in Parma seems to melt the ceiling of the cathedral and draw the viewer into a gyre of spiritual ecstasy.
The flight of the Madonna in the vault of the cupola of the Cathedral of Parma inspired numerous scenographical decorations in lay and religious palaces during the 20th centuries.
December 14, 2009 at 4:12 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773359apellesParticipant@Praxiteles wrote:
Theologically these would be a bit OTT !
Glad you said that Prax..Personally I wouldn’t go to Church anymore if they got rid of the obligatory limbo dancing.
December 13, 2009 at 5:45 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773357apellesParticipantHad to put these up as they explain the history of Vatican 2, Its effects on Church Architecture & many of the other issues & concerns Prax has talked about on this thread with regard to reordering of Church’s & Cathedrals.
December 12, 2009 at 2:57 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773354apellesParticipantThe Virgin and child, painted dome of the parecclesion of Chora Church. A Byzantine church in Istanbul
December 12, 2009 at 2:49 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773353apellesParticipantSt.Paul’s Cathedral painted in grisaille (gray and brown).
December 12, 2009 at 2:30 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773352apellesParticipantA Greek Orthodox example.
It took Tziouvaras and two assistants over 3 months to paint the image of the Almighty in the dome. They laid on their backs on a 75 foot tall scaffold to paint it.
December 11, 2009 at 10:45 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773344apellesParticipantJust to counterbalance the ramblings..sorry I mean observations of Ed Byrne..something on iconoclasm..
December 11, 2009 at 2:39 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773341apellesParticipantforemanjoe wrote:Coincidence apelles, not irony. Has Ed Byrne taught you nothing?Thanks Joe I’d completly forgotten about that..You got it wrong as well tho..He says ‘it’s Unfortunate’.
December 11, 2009 at 2:07 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773340apellesParticipant@johnglas wrote:
apelles:it’s really a shame that they replaced the original vernacular facade; it’s so much better than the bog-standard 1950s ‘romanesque’ current one. There really should be a ‘leave well alone’ syndrome drummed into PPs everywhere (along with much else).
PS Did they really have the brass neck to demolish the georgian house adjacent for that 1950s bit of suburbia? Planning? Conservation?Thats the Porochial House John, I called there to get a book about the diosese, thankfully they did’nt demolish that…Yet.
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