reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches

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  • #773336
    Praxiteles
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    @apelles wrote:

    Agree John..BTW..Don’t refrain from making honest comments on this thread..no one reads it anyway..

    I am not at all sure of that …..

    #773337
    johnglas
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    apelles:it’s really a shame that they replaced the original vernacular facade; it’s so much better than the bog-standard 1950s ‘romanesque’ current one. There really should be a ‘leave well alone’ syndrome drummed into PPs everywhere (along with much else).
    PS Did they really have the brass neck to demolish the georgian house adjacent for that 1950s bit of suburbia? Planning? Conservation?

    #773338
    foremanjoe
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    @apelles wrote:

    All the hacking this church has recieved over the years has certainly left its toll, but the thing I find most objectionable about it would have to be the rough dirty grey plaster dash sprayed onto the main ceiling areas & up into the dome. Ironicly enough the Church is built in an area in Westport called ‘The Shambles’.

    Coincidence apelles, not irony. Has Ed Byrne taught you nothing?

    And go easy on Praxiteles, I fear that if you take his churches and their perceived import from him, he may be left with nothing. Poor soul.

    On a more relevant point, tis an awful shame about the loss of that gothic facade.
    It would tie in very well with the clocktower and the octagon in the town, and would no doubt enhance the appeal of the already beautiful mall.

    #773339
    apelles
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    @Praxiteles wrote:

    I am not at all sure of that …..

    Was only messing about no one reading this thread..With 1,021,459 views & currently & 6,122 replies it has to be the most popular thread ever on Arkiseek..So very well done Praxiteles..you’re a legend.
    But the problem I am addressing here or what I was getting at, is how do we get the ‘right’ feckin people to read it? The ones who are awarded these contracts..meaning the likes of your Hurleys & Heddermans etc..those Architects who aggressively pursue their own agenda in Church reordering around the country..Ignorant as Praxiteles would say ‘to the wind of change’ that’s happening around them & needs to be brought to their attention. How can we make them sit up & take notice of the views expressed here by so many & put an end to this fad of Church vandalism?..For good.
    Any Ideas anyone?

    #773340
    apelles
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    @johnglas wrote:

    apelles:it’s really a shame that they replaced the original vernacular facade; it’s so much better than the bog-standard 1950s ‘romanesque’ current one. There really should be a ‘leave well alone’ syndrome drummed into PPs everywhere (along with much else).
    PS Did they really have the brass neck to demolish the georgian house adjacent for that 1950s bit of suburbia? Planning? Conservation?

    Thats the Porochial House John, I called there to get a book about the diosese, thankfully they did’nt demolish that…Yet.

    #773341
    apelles
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    foremanjoe wrote:
    Coincidence apelles, not irony. Has Ed Byrne taught you nothing?

    Thanks Joe I’d completly forgotten about that..You got it wrong as well tho..He says ‘it’s Unfortunate’.

    #773342
    johnglas
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    Whewww…!

    #773343
    Anonymous
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    Ten thousand spoons indeed.
    Put me in mind of Barney McKenna in O’Donoghues one night, years ago, when every aran gansey thought he could play the spoons. Barney was playing a solo banjo and this guy joined in on the spoons. After a while it grated, Barney stopped, turned behind him and said, loudly, “Would somebody give that Effer a cup of coffee.”
    K.

    #773344
    apelles
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    Just to counterbalance the ramblings..sorry I mean observations of Ed Byrne..something on iconoclasm..

    #773345
    Praxiteles
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    A good idea of Will Dowsing’s work!

    #773346
    Praxiteles
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    If one wanted to do a job on the inside of the odme in Westport, then perhaps it might not be a bad idea to see what has been done with domes:

    St Peter’s, Rome

    #773347
    Praxiteles
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    Sant’ Ivo della Sapeinza, Rome

    #773348
    Praxiteles
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    Ss Nome di Maria, Rome

    #773349
    Praxiteles
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    The Gesù, Rome

    #773350
    Praxiteles
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    The mock dome in Sant’Ignazio

    #773351
    Praxiteles
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    The capella Chigi in Santa Maria del Popolo

    #773352
    apelles
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    A Greek Orthodox example.

    It took Tziouvaras and two assistants over 3 months to paint the image of the Almighty in the dome. They laid on their backs on a 75 foot tall scaffold to paint it.

    #773353
    apelles
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    St.Paul’s Cathedral painted in grisaille (gray and brown).

    #773354
    apelles
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    The Virgin and child, painted dome of the parecclesion of Chora Church. A Byzantine church in Istanbul

    #773355
    Praxiteles
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    Santa Maria Maggiore, Rome, Capella Paolina

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