J. Seerski
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The area was identified as an area where high-rise may work – and given the vast expanse behind Broadstone it may just suit here.
A legal quater – maybe. But the key to a regeneration here would have to involve reopening Broadstone. It is not far from the city centre as has been suggested. The entire northwestern sector of the city would benefit greatly from reopening of the railway line. Closing Broadstone in 1938 was of its time – Navan was just a sleepy town then! Mistakes were made, and they should be rectified, not await the fate of Harcourt Street railway.
J. SeerskiParticipantand what the hell is “a devalued commodity”???
New office space is always in demand – its the old rubbish like O’Connell Bridge House and that ilk that find it difficult to survive in an economic downturn.
Broadstone is ideally placed to serve the city and if reopened could act as a massive economic regenerator to a part of the city which is dull, sleepy and lacks one important aspect – people!!!
The city centre is too small for a city of over 1 million. It needs to be expanded – can you really say that Broadstone – less than a kilometer from Parnell Square – is too far from the city centre?
J. SeerskiParticipantok, but it really isn’t that far from the city – its closer than Heuston – and no one would even think of closing that!
J. SeerskiParticipantI am lost…..
J. SeerskiParticipant…..Yeah, and he’d be so happy with the PVC windows they slapped onto Hillsborough Castle of all things!!!!!!!! 🙁
J. SeerskiParticipantNah, thesis only in print format –
But the conclusion is quite unambiguous. The decline of the Northside was NOT due to the 1800 Act of Union (which many say it was). The city’s development as a whole collapsed from that point. The reason for the acute decline of the Northside was the absence of effective estate management, which resulted from the death of Luke Gardiner II in 1798. After that point, the estate fell into the hands of a minor, whose guardians could not give a damn about the estate.
Significantly, no new projects were concieved for the Gardiner Estate after his death, and many that were planned were either abandoned or incomplete.
If Luke Gardiner had survived, Dublin would not be as we know it now. The Northside would still be the most fashionable part of Dublin…… Just another “what if?”…..
J. SeerskiParticipantSOMEONE SHOULD GET RID OF THOSE FLATS ON CONSTITUTION HILL – THEY DESTROY THE VISUAL IMPACT OF BROADSTONE AND KINGS INNS. And they are mingin!
J. SeerskiParticipantThe best of the two Lukes was undoubtedly the first. His construction of Henrietta Street set the standard from which the rest of the Georgian City took its measure. He also instigated the constuction of Sackville street, which, in its own right, is a landmark development in town planning worldwide. His Grandson, Luke II, went further, though the impact was less ground-breaking. He built more, but was not as ingenious as his grandfather.
J. SeerskiParticipant…and no, it wasn’t something in a tent….
J. SeerskiParticipantFYI
I did my undergrad thesis on “The Gardiner Estate – The Decline of the Northside” I know possibly too much about that family!!
The most pitiful aspect to that family was, in spite of their great achievements, much of what they planned was never built. Has anyone heard of the Royal Circus????
J. SeerskiParticipantYep, ZARA is moving in all right. I suppose the development ain’t all that bad. Wait and see……
J. SeerskiParticipantThere does seem to be much yuck – perhaps the yuckkiest of all is the Phibsboro Tower rubbish.
The guideline or idea for new buildings should look to Berlin as a good example (post-communist!). And do visit Berlin!!!!!
If you visit the Potsdamer Platz, you will see dramatic and unashamedly modern streetscapes and buildings – my favourite being the Deutsche Bahn building – around 20-30 storeys tall.
If anyone is not convinced of the merits of modern Architecture, go there!!
Does anyone think we should rid Dublin of “Liberty Hall”? It is ugly and totally out of context. Imagine the skyline without it….. Is there any architectural quality to it?
Dublin should go higher – but only out in the Docklands. And apart from the main IFSC Block beside the Customs House, there is little inspiring around the IFSC….
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J. SeerskiParticipantMountjoy Prison. A beautiful place of contemplation for those with plenty of time on their hands……
Marvel at the victorians’ ability to bring those with lofty ambitions back to heel…. Centrally located, with many famous “residents”!
Enter at your own risk!
J. SeerskiParticipantYah, makeovers, butch, what next? A facial?!!!!!:D
J. SeerskiParticipantGod aren’t we cynical!!!!!!
Blame the good weather today – yippeeee!!!!
J. SeerskiParticipantRoskov, do you need glasses? Butch? What has “The George” got to do with architecture???? :confused:
J. SeerskiParticipantYou are more likely to be mugged south of the river, darling.
J. SeerskiParticipantIts not as poor as you might expect –
The detail is more intricate than a “country garage”!
If more of the timber panels are removed you will see how refined the actual building actually is……..
J. SeerskiParticipantOh, I forgot, what about the hideously sick and vile Regency Airport Hotel – an absolute heap of junk thrown together…..
J. SeerskiParticipantHeard today that Limerick is to feature on the “Wish you were here” series of programmes this week on UK TV. This is no joke!
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