Luke Gardiner (Lord Mountjoy).
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- March 3, 2003 at 12:03 pm #724888
Simon
ParticipantOr simply visit Hillsborough in NI and view a Georgian gem of a preserved town..ask them how they have managed and protected it so well. Luke would be impressed if he visited Hillsborough today..he might even bang a few heads togeather at the castle talks !!
March 3, 2003 at 12:12 pm #724889J. Seerski
Participant…..Yeah, and he’d be so happy with the PVC windows they slapped onto Hillsborough Castle of all things!!!!!!!! 🙁
March 3, 2003 at 7:22 pm #724890GrahamH
ParticipantYou’re joking! I never noticed, I’ll be watching tonight!
March 4, 2003 at 12:58 pm #724891GrahamH
ParticipantNo PVC on the main facade at least…
March 4, 2003 at 2:10 pm #724892Rory W
ParticipantWhat O’Connell Street needs is some positive pulls on the street so the thing doesn’t die after 6pm in the evening, cafes, restaurants, decent bars, places where people can feel safe. I saw an article on Brendan Grace in the Sunday Times decrying the fact that the money was spent on the Spire, he said it should have been spent on 6 squad cars to patrol the street – pleb that he is, we cant live in fear of our lives for visiting the Savoy. Best of luck to the City Council, get out McDonalds etc.
March 4, 2003 at 3:34 pm #724893J. Seerski
ParticipantTo Go if O’Connell Street is to get anywhere..
1. McDonalds et. al.
2. Eircom Building
3. Royal Dublin Hotel
4. Amusement Arcades
5. Centra-Spar etc.In their place if O’Connell Street is to get anywhere…
1. National Theatre at the Carlton
2. Indigenous non-chain-store type shops
3. Uniform Shopfronts like that of Regent St. London.
4. Decent Restaraunts – again no chains!What is not needed…
1. “sure it will do” attitude.
2. half-baked effort in implementing the rejuvination plan.
3. CUTBACKS!I read with interest that cash-starved Russia has four extensions planned for its metro, yet we can even get one started!
March 4, 2003 at 3:57 pm #724894Rory W
ParticipantJ. Seerski, perfect suggestions however may I add metro station to the wish list and some additional draws to the Parnell Square area please
March 4, 2003 at 4:20 pm #724895alastair
Participanton the basis of ‘step by step’ progress I’d suggest that Moore street become an anchor for the HARP area. It could be transformed into a defacto multi-ethnic epicurian centre for the city. It’s basically a blank (but manky) canvas at present, and would be affordably turned into a serious anchor for the area. No need for a grand scheme; let the Ilac sort itself out. Just provide grant aid for restoring the other side of the street on the basis of them housing only specialist foodstuffs etc.
It’d help enormously in changing attitudes to the north city centre (especially if the Abbey moved into the Carlton/Dr Quirkeys site)
March 4, 2003 at 8:30 pm #724896GrahamH
ParticipantAnd proper facades for Fingal bldg, Dublin Bus, Penneys (actually they can get out altogether) and shoe building…
March 5, 2003 at 9:06 am #724897GregF
ParticipantThat would be an eradication of all late 20th century facades….leaving only what was rebuilt after 1916 which was in a more nineteenth century style. That would be strange.
After all, the upgrading of O’Connell Street will be in a comtemporary style, ie like Henry Street. The lighting (the retro Victorian lampstandards are going) the seating , booths, etc……….are all to tie in with the Spire, giving a more modern air of design to the street.
It would be ludicrous to lose all 20th century ‘Modernist’ style buildings ….after all O’Connell Street could have been rebuilt in a Bauhaus style following the uprising.March 5, 2003 at 12:04 pm #724898GrahamH
ParticipantI completely disagree, considering the absolute minority of ‘modernist’ buildings on the street, and the otherwise dignified ‘historic’ and classical character of it, it is in the street’s interests to fully restore it to a uniform style.
I’m not being typically sentimental, revisionist and blah, blah. Most buildings on O’ C St are nothing spectacular, but as a whole, combine to create a sense of scale, and most importantly, character and history. To break up these uniform terraces with the likes of the shoeshop building and Fingal etc, grossly undermines the effect the other buildings create.
To have starkly modern street furniture and paving will contrast spectacularly with older buildings, and to have that effect the whole way down the street would be truly fantastic. In my view, it is imperitive that the current modern buildings on the street (only about 5% of the bldg stock) be refaced in a traditional way with appropriate Victorian brickwork and stone dressings, no watered down 80s crap and uPVC. This can be achieved through simply mirror imaging the building next door, or building individually.
Again, I’m don’t wear rose-tinted glasses(indeed no glasses at all), it is simply in the street’s, and the city’s interests to rebuild appropriatly. Faithful replicas are laughed at due to the inundation of pastiche, and architects obbsession with post-modern, and is simply immature. (Not that I’m saying you are Greg!. Heaven forbid!)
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