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They could always incorporate the perserved (or soon to be preserved) buildings into the design, like up at the National Gallery.
fergalrParticipantWell a fair bit is gone already. Fingal County Hall is vacant and is hardly going to have objections to its demolition.
The Carlton is in legal limbo…The Royal Dublin is a monstrosity (most hotels are..)
And what happened to the Council’s plan to terminate the leases held by the fast food restaurants? And the regulations on shop front design?
fergalrParticipantI’ve been trying to think up more sensible routes than the one through College Green on http://www.harpingon.blogspot.com
I’d really appreciate comments and suggestions there.
fergalrParticipantIt my honest opinion, everything on both sides of the street from the Spike north, with the exceptions of the Gresham, the georgian part of the Royal Dublin and the buildings predating the 1920s/30s rebuilding should be knocked or reclad.
They have no architectural merit. The massive scheme from the Gresham down to Burger King is impressive, but phenomanlly ugly, as the pics above bear out. The Gresham could theoretically stand as its own building, without the rest of the scheme.
But if the rest is to stay, it all needs to be brightened up. Dublin is not a city for grey brick. The georgians and Wide Street Commissioners knew that.As for the west side….it all has to go, with minor exceptions.
fergalrParticipantWell the only arguments for retaining it will come from people who are congenitally blind..
Once it’s knocked, there’ll be taller buildings in its place. And fair enough, the Liffey frontage can take the height. But several mixed height towers would break up any horizontal opression that the view in the photos conveys.
In my uneducated opinion.
Oh it has to go…!!! Whoever had the suggestion to arm Dubliners with sledgehammers is on the right course.
fergalrParticipantFair enough Tommyt, perhaps living in the suburbs gives me a bit too objective an opinion on inner city communities..
But I think the rest of my points are valid.fergalrParticipantGraham, isn’t that the way things are in Ireland. We can never do things properly.
I don’t suppose refurbishing it to its Gandonian original would be on the cards…alas.
In my opinion, it’d be a better location for the National Library than the cramped one they’re using at the minute..but they won’t move.
Personally, I think the building is too grand in appearance and in pedigree to be used as a tourist office. An architectural museum would be a fine thing for it.
And given the size of the place, there would surely be space for a museum on the Irish diaspora too.On a related matter, will the Loop Line ever come down?
There were plans in recent years to rebuild it, to make it more transparent.fergalrParticipantGraham, isn’t that the way things are in Ireland. We can never do things properly.
I don’t suppose refurbishing it to its Gandonian original would be on the cards…alas.
In my opinion, it’d be a better location for the National Library than the cramped one they’re using at the minute..but they won’t move.
Personally, I think the building is too grand in appearance and in pedigree to be used as a tourist office. An architectural museum would be a fine thing for it.
And given the size of the place, there would surely be space for a museum on the Irish diaspora too.On a related matter, will the Loop Line ever come down?
There were plans in recent years to rebuild it, to make it more transparent.fergalrParticipantI agree about the ‘Pro’s railings. Sure look at the church on Arran Quay down by the Four Courts…they’ve had to put in huge new gates on the portico to stop vagrants kipping there.
fergalrParticipantNo idea what you’re on about, sorry.
It’s a cramped little street, with little to no imapact on the traffic of the city. But has potential and has the Pro and the park of the Dept as well as decent greenery in parts along its length.
Knock ’em down, I say!
fergalrParticipantOne of my fav streets in the city.
fergalrParticipantNorth Great George’s St is lovely. Walked up and down it for 6 years on way to and from school.
fergalrParticipantAh now in fairness it’s the Dept of Education and Science!!!
There could hardly be a security risk, unless from JC and LC students trying to forge exam results.fergalrParticipantDo you not think the area will need to be re-gentryfied as well?
Mixed income housing, Improvement to the various streets..
From the top of O’Connell St. there is a pointless vacuum of city until you get to Phibsboro.
I’d say, given proper investment and it’s own HARP (Historic Area Regeneration Programme-remember those??) the area could take on a whole new lease of life, would give purpose to the top of O’Connell St (it leads to nowhere at present) and would link Phibsboro properly to the city centre.And with the ‘Joy moving in a few years, the impetus will be on to drag the area into the 21st century.
The Corpo flats have to be redone. The church is magnificent, it deserves a proper stage.November 30, 2005 at 4:25 pm in reply to: Leinster Lawn expected to be restored during summer recess 2005 #752971fergalrParticipantA route through to Merrion Street would be a start. Otherwise there’s the hikes down and around by Nassau St or Stephen’s Green.
Some sort of plaze would be nice, and the museum could open the back entrance to their building.
And raze the Dept of Argiculture.fergalrParticipantPencil Please
Goodbye Hawkin House
Though we never liked you at all
You were the thing that placed itself
Where Dublin was torn apart
You called out to our city
And you whispered to those in pain
“Haha, tough luck, pal
I’m an architectural shame”And it seems to me you lived your life
Like a suicidal in the wind
Ever fading with the sunset
When the rain set in
And your footplate will always fall here
Though we’ll rebuild-oh yes we will
Your design burned out long before
Your infamy ever willLoveliness we’ve lost
These empty days with your pile
This torch we’ll always carry
When we burn you to the ground
And even though we try
The truth brings us to tears
All our words cannot express
The hurt you brought us through the yearsAnd it seems to me you lived your life
Like a suicidal in the wind
Ever fading with the sunset
When the rain set in
And your footplate will always fall here
Though we’ll rebuild-oh yes we will
Your design burned out long before
Your infamy ever willGoodbye Hawkin House
No we never liked you at all you
You were the thing that placed itself
Where Dublin was torn apart
Goodbye Hawkin House
From a country delighted you are gone
Who’ll miss nothing about you
When the demolitions blowAnd it seems to me you lived your life
Like a suicidal in the wind
Ever fading with the sunset
When the rain set in
And your footplate will always fall here
Though we’ll rebuild-oh yes we will
Your design burned out long before
Your infamy ever willNovember 30, 2005 at 4:01 pm in reply to: Leinster Lawn expected to be restored during summer recess 2005 #752969fergalrParticipantWell….the redevelopement went well, didn’t it!?
fergalrParticipantVery interesting pic!!!!!
Em…certainly some of the buildings there would have looked far better being taller. Some of them would have looked far better by not being built!
fergalrParticipantI was always of the opinion Limerick’s was the tallest.
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