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€4m facelift for city’s famed street
DUBLIN’S Moore Street is to get €4m facelift.
It will include a high roof to cover new stalls and new paving will be laid.
Consultants are drawing up plans to give the traditional fruit, veg and fish markets a 21st century lifeline and Dublin City Council is footing the bill.
Nearby, the 1980’s-built Ilac centre is also getting a multi-million refurbishment, as is the Roches Stores complex.
Bucholz McEvoy Architects, who designed the new Fingal County Council HQ in Swords, are currently drafting proposals to transform the Moore Street thoroughfare.
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1019812&issue_id=9571
if theres anywhere needs it more pls tell me. moore street has become so delapitated its not even funny.
any images of the bucholz mcevoy plan? has it been directly outsourced to them or was there a call for proposals?
i don’t agree sw101, the atmosphere in Moore St is great, its like being on Canal St. every city should have an area that is run down but still busy, you don’t want everywhere to be either high-street or no-go. I would prefer if they put their efforts into knocking the fish-market and developing the planned market square.
atmosphere? its a pretty unwelcoming place for blow-ins and tourists. the oppressive ilac hood destroys the upper end of it, i like the henry street end where its open and people arent too pushy. i’d like to see its character open up a bit and make it more inviting. and it stinks. but i guess thats what happens when you sell fish
unwelcoming to blow-ins? it is one of the main locations for recent-immigrant owned businesses and is one place where people who aren’t white don’t feel conspicuous.
Isn’t the plan to knock down most of the street and have it even _more_ like the Ilac Centre end?
I’m not sure how one considers the street “oppressive”. Dilapidated, sure, but it’s lively, diverse, and not unfriendly. Do we really need another Grafton St? Or another twee mall?
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I meant blow-ins like myself, from the south. i think its great to have multicultural centres like the parnell and moore street area have become. i just meant i personally dont feel very comfortable there, except perhaps during peak trading hours which bring a nice bustle about the place. and its only an opinion. i’m a bit difficult to please when i can see what could easily be done to improve things.
by oppressive i mean the big triangles casting looming shadows and making otherwise useful trading space dark and dingy.
the character of the street needs to be restored using well thought out and non-intrusive interventions and modifications to facades. as a market street it works wonderfully but could have more universal appeal
Moore St is barely even a street thanks to the Ilac whick forms little more than a concrete wall to enclose it into a street formation. And the Parnell end just literally falls away to nothing.
I don’t think that anyone wants glossy tiled floors and clinical stalls etc, but anything that makes the place look like a street (like thats to much to ask) has to be welcomed.
i’m glad ppl are expressing strong opinions about this topic. theres a tendency, especially amongst ensconced dubliners, that things should be left as is, auld dublin and all that. where would smithfield be now with that attitude prevailing? these streets, parnell, moore, not as much capel, kings inn and definitely upper o’connell, need to be activated asap to bring in revenue, foot traffic, business, etcetera.
fair point about another grafton street, but its possible to improve this area without mimicking past models. grafton street works because its full of money, every shop front is open and accessible, and ppl use it day and night with confidence. not many ppl comfortably walk past (s)hooters, down moore street, and along o’connell street at night without being on there gaurd, and i think in a modern city that sort of fear and anxiety should be avoided. and could be avoided, with a little effort
I think there’s a difference between arguing you should retain the spirit of place and arguing that you should avoid _any_ changes. Of course Moore St could do with a facelift, but I think most people fear that any chances will be like the construction of the Ilac Centre section – for the worse. Isn’t there already a plan to knocking down most of the street opposite the Ilac centre section to construct a mall? It’s very hard to argue that the spirit of the street can be maintained if it’s hemmed in by two large buildings.
As for Smithfield, I imagine the jury is still out on the success of that. I live only 10 minutes away max, but the only time in the past few years that I had reason to go there was for the French food fair. Even after 10 years of the so-called plan, there really isn’t much up there at all; all shine, no substance.
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I would happily retain the entire right hand side of the street – just strengthen and refurbish the derelict areas of buildings. I know a lot of the buildings aren’t architectural wonders, but they are a monument to their time, and they are buzzing with activity.
However I would pull down the ilac centre facade, which I know they are doing to some degree anyway, and design some shops, apts or whatever to restore this side of the street.
I believe that the inset on Parnell St is also designated for apts, and the Jury’s hotel is well underway. So instead of Moore St being a sad and lonely relic of what used to be there, it could be an extremely quirky and lively unplanned section of a street complemented by some very user friendly apartments and shops, coherently linking Parnell St to Henry St.
There is a lot of development going on no doubt, but how planned is it all? Will we end up with a mishmash of styles and buildings leaving the street without any coherent style or design.
As for the market, proper level paving is required and better lighting and street cleaning. Were DCC to organise and involve the traders in any improvment that would keep the undeniable charm that Moore Street has.
I love Moore Street – it is one of the few none-tourist areas left. I buy my lunch fruit there every day. And what lovely tiles outside Buckleys. It is also of historic importance (1916). By the way what has happen to the plaque commemorating The O’Rahilly?
As a PS to my last posting, can any kind soul tell me who designed the sculpture at the Parnell Street end of Moore Street?
I quite like the scupture – I think it looks quirky. Shame its in the suburban English pedestrian style area at the back of the Ilac Centre.
I have to ask myself why new paving is proposed – the Henry St. end of the street was only recently cobbled along with a mosaic – possibly as recently as 1996 or 1998? Surely you should get a bit more value for money and longevity from this? If not, it doesn’t bode well for the expectation of long term planning?
I think the street is great as is – I can’t see that there is any sort of lack of friendliness and I certainly never feel uncomfortable there – being a Southsider who has spent every Saturday shopping day on that street with my family since knee high.
The street is even better now that the shops on the street are occupied by various immigrant commercial enterprises rather than many being vacant for what was a long time.
Markets smell though – its ridiculous to say otherwise. The best ones are also a bit dirty rather than the santisied versions in Temple Bar but that said a bit of extra cleaning wouldn’t go amiss.
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