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notjim wrote:as pointed out on the p11 site this interesting ei document is now available, features pictures of the o’connell st metro station and other stuff too:
Thanks for info, a lot more advanced than I thought. Interesting to see how they handle access to grafton street during construction. O Connell St station looks interesting, likewise St S Green.
Now is the time to start planning large high density development along this route , not when it is built.@notjim wrote:
I am sure the sindy misreported p11; they want the ppt in use now but the interconnector to go ahead asap. you would worry why they would be misquoted in this way.
There was a part on the last word on Today FM this evening, p11 cleared up the reporting -they are infavour of the interconnector but said there was a promise to use the existing tunnel. Serious guff coming from Barry Kenny in Irish rail about capacity at Connolly again. There must be an engineer out there that can design a solution to the Connolly issue. After watching what the much criticised British did with St Pancras this must be kids stuff. Will London’s crossrail project be finished before our interconnector -place your bets?:(
A real tower, compare this to anything proposed for Dublin? Perhaps the DDDA should take a trip to Dubai to see twisting and height.
Spot on Darkman, you can add nearly every building they deem highrise in Dublin over the past decade or more, current article from todays IT as an example of all that is wrong with them.
Didnt the wide streets involve dramatic change – would they have objected to that project?Plan for former ESB shop in Temple Bar criticised
An Taisce has criticised a proposal to redevelop the former ESB showrooms at the entrance to Temple Bar on Fleet Street, Dublin 2, saying the design is trying to cram-in too many floors and is out of scale in an area of great historic sensitivity.
The building adjoins Westmoreland Street to the east “which is part of the great north/south Georgian axis developed around 1800 by the Wide Streets Commissioners”.
Aztec Properties, controlled by Wexford-based Stafford Holdings, bought the 1960s building for €33 million and plans to demolish it for a six-storey block with two further storeys set back. An Taisce says the height is “over and above” the five-storey scale of Westmoreland Street and, while Fleet Street has larger structures at its eastern end (“notably the leaden 1990s Fleet Street multi-storey car park”), the planned building is of greater scale than anything in the immediate area. If it goes ahead the development would have 1,313sq m (14,133sq ft) of retail space at street level and a further 1,299sq m (13,982sq ft) in the upper basement.
Office space on floors one to seven will extend to 8,188sq m (88,135sq ft). The Fleet Street premises was one of a small number of ESB buildings excluded from the sale of its retail network to Bank of Scotland (Ireland).
© 2007 The Irish TimesHave to wonder why the government does not use section 25 or similar status for critical infrastructure, off thread here but lots of critical comment on infrastructure in the Sunday Business Post today.
Hopefully this one is a dead duck, lets get some buildings up before we start building items like this, it reminds me of Alton Towers in England
@Paul Clerkin wrote:
How? They’ve largely just rebuilt the entire area.
Hopefully when Spencer Dock is finished and the other plots between it and the remodelled Point Depot are
built on, the U2 tower will be more joined up with the city.
Now I am dreaming but if that highrise island mooted a while back was built and the port moved then who knows.Graham H
Future towers, stop dreaming! compared to IFSC II and other DDDA projects this is top quality stuff, hopefully once built it will finally end the highrise phobia. Agreed the building could do more to face the city but hopefully the new city will be built up around it.
SOC wrote:Frank McDonald’s piece in Thursday was excellent. Did anyone else see it?Yes read it in full, some good points but like his recent article on Metro north he seems to be more critical than looking at any benefits for the city. Never any vision used on his part.
This tower has dragged on for years, they need to build it ASAP and then we can all comment on it favourably or not.@ake wrote:
Am I alone thinking such a huge building looks kind of ridiculous in the midst of the low docklands skyline? Will it not distract the eye from looking anywhere else ? If there were a few altro vetros nearby then we’d have some sort gradation at least.
Nope I agree,all in favour of a tall building here but something needs to be built in between it and the other flat buildings along side it
although it will probably look better viewed from near Altro Vetro
can anybody put together a render of this new proposal combined with the refused Dunloe scheme on the next site, this was done with the twisting design.Based on those pictures in the Irish Times I think the DDDA may have called this one correctly, however the original tower proposal does look well in the Times. I wonder how difficult it would be to accomodate the twisting tower in another docklands location.It will be interesting to see how the green lobby etc plan on dealing with objections to the additional energy centre and also how if at all the DDDA deal with future tall buildings now that the height benchmark regardless of looks is circa 180m.
