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I meant the Four Courts, even when it has been agreed to build the stadium, it is going to have to go through the planning process. If Lansdowne is to be replaced i dont think planning permission should be sought, i know its highly unlikely but i hope they can just build it immediately. Look at the facts 1. we need a stadium 2. lansdowne is simply being replaced, why give the begrudgers and objectors a chance to object to a replacement structure? 3. Scrapping the planning process would save a year or two judging by the speed of the decisions here.
Heres an idea, the st. stephens green to sandyford line is to be upgraded to a metro as most of us have probably heard, so why not tunnel to stephens green from the airport or wherever it is on the Northside and then continue on tunneling until you reach where the Luas now currently has to go on street when coming into town, that way you have one line running from Dublin Airport to Sandyford. When the tunnel reaches where the Luas currently dosnt interact with traffic, let the metro ascend on to the current track. As for the trams they can be used on other lines, the other thing is, the Luas is going to be bursting from the seems from day one, Id say the dart will have nothing on the Luas in terms of overcrowding!
Hi BTH, ive read alot of the articles on platform 11’s website, and also Brennan has not initiated any luas or metro projects so far, the luas was initiated under O’Rourke. I wouldnt blame him for the mess, also why was the luas not put underground? Are the same fools who campaigned against it running underground in the city centre going to do the same for the metro, or would they prefer more of the same chaos? Also really hope the National Infrastructure Board is Introduced, major projects should be under construction 24hrs a day and not have machinery woth millions lying idle, i also think the public and interest groups have far too much input into the planning process, just looking after their own interest, the common good should be looked after. I also agree with the system in Spain where any land 10m from the surface is owned by the state. What does anyone think of the idea of a NIB? I support the idea a 110% but im sure some people with nothing better to do will object.
Hi Fin, I know the GPO and Dail werent good examples, i didnt want to start a history lesson but you know the point im trying to make. Your rgiht though, those who were in the GPO and Dail when they were being bombed and shot at were obviously not civilians. Going back to the stadium, i dont think it would be ideal as the pitch is 150m long i think, im not to sure about the width of the pitch, but my point basicly is that there could be quite a distance between the pitch and the fans. Youd also wonder if it were opened up would ticket prices increase or decrease, at the moment they are crazy considering were paying to watch our national teams play in a glorified barn. Id say about a fifty thousand seatre stadium would be a good capacity, for any new one that may be built, also with the improving economy and finances hopefully this project will atlast take off, no one can deny that the situation is such a joke its not even funny.
First of all what is why is 270 million quoted, second of all, Jimmy Quinn and the boys of the Irish Road Haulage Association did not design the tunnel, whatever idiots did musnt have taken into account our biggest trading partner, where currently no limit applies. My final point is either the tunnel should be highered or ban trucks of a certain height, I would recommend 4.65 m or the same as the tunnels operating height.
Fin, a few thousand seats! Id say it would be somewhere in the region of 10,000, plus i personally feel the stadium looks unfinished with Hill 16. Ive also heard enough about Rule 42 and its reasons. Do they realise it wasnt only Croke Park where innocent Irish were killed, what about the streets and buildings such as the GPO and the Dail where Irish were killed by the british, should we ban British people from here aswell?
I really cant believe no one has mentioned this or even thought of it! Fifa does not allow standing or temporary seating at soccer internationals, the FAI’s allowance for temporary seating has just expired, so Croke Park if it is opened up to football, will only be three quarters of a stadium with no fans on Hill 16. Croke Park will be opened up sooner or later, its a fact. Anyway its another great example of the short term thinking in this country, i mean what kind of retards are in charge of infrastructure in this country? No one either on T.V or in the press has mentioned the point i just made, i think it is a very obvious problem. Work should be stopped immediately on Hill 16, and the stadium should be finnished properly, i.e a proper stand should be built.
I think it is too good an oppurtunity to waste, i doubt it will get the through the planning process however, and even if it did it would almost surely be scaled back. Whether the Council and residents like it or not, that land will be rezoned, its just a matter of time.The scale of the development is mindboggling, could you imagine the benefits to the construction industry, exchequer and toursim industry, airports and ports it would really put Dublin on the map. As for the infrastructute, where theres a will theres a way!
