Andrew Duffy
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@phil wrote:
Are you sure about the Macken Street flats in the second image?
On further inspection, no.
That second picture is great. You can see the council flats on Maken St. under construction behind the building, and a large pair Georgian houses propped up on the corner of Macken St. and Grand Canal St. which are long demolished (dangerous buildings act I presume; the road was subsequently widened).
I don’t think it was an old building that was reclad; the building that was occupied in 1916 was further back on the site. There’s an article about it here: http://www.nli.ie/1916/pdf/7.10.pdf
Just to clear things up, the building was altered slightly by ABP, but the height of the main section remained the same, at 60.4m and 14 storeys. The heights of the elevations to some streets were reduced. There was a proposal years ago for a very tall building on the site of the current somewhat tall building beside the station, but not for the station site itself.
@Thomond Park wrote:
You do higher densities no favours with your one size fits all approach…
Huh?
@Thomond Park wrote:
…and a lot of the distances you have quoted relate to images that do not even display the buildings/structures you are trying to relate to.
Again, huh?
@KerryBog2 wrote:
The buildings should be placed in geographic context – the Periph and the Paris heliport are next door! And
“a few hundred metres” – is misleading, it is more like 1500 metres if not 2 kms. from the T. Eiffel.Viamichelin puts at at 1km by car]http://maps.google.fr/?ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1&ll=48.851134,2.284341&spn=0.016718,0.025835[/url]
Notice, no Periphique in sight.
Also , Front de Seine was pushed through by Pompidou as a housing / urban rejuvenation scheme at a time when housing was very scarce and the area was kipsville, being part of the run-down workshops around the old Citroen works.
SoThomas St. is not “kipsville”? The proposal is also a regeneration of run-down former industrial land.
How about next time any of the An Taisce types is in Paris, he opens his eyes?
Here’s a photo of the large cluster of highrises a few hundred metres South-West of the Eiffel Tower:
http://www.atkielski.com/inlink.php?/PhotoGallery/Paris/General/FrontDeSeineLarge.html
edit: here’s some more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_de_SeineHow about an aerial photo showing the highrise buildings beside Tour Maine Montparnasse?
http://jlhuss.blog.lemonde.fr/jlhuss/images/12150035_1.JPG… the other very big one is Le Meridien Montparnasse, a hotel:
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/lemeridien/search/hotel_detail.html?propertyID=1920&language=fr_FRHow about another hotel, Hotel Concorde Lafayette near Porte Maillot:
http://www.concorde-lafayette.com/index2.htmedit: I forgot possibly the biggest highrise cluster in Paris, the apartment towers in the 13th:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Paris-13eme-panorama-annote.jpg… and all of these are in a city that has one highrise building outside of La D
@Devin wrote:
Look at the Montparnasse tower in Paris – what does it do for the area? Nothing! It’s seen as a one-off mistake.
Have you actually been to Montparnasse? There are tall modern buildings all around the 59 storey tower. Paris is always used as an example of a low-rise city with one mistake, when in fact it has buildings that are taller than anything in Ireland all over it – there is a huge cluster of 30 storey-plus buildings right beside the Eiffel Tower.
I’m pretty sure that An Taisce types never leave Dublin 6, let alone Ireland.
@phil wrote:
It seems to be about the same height as the Millenium Tower across the road.
I agree. The Millennium Tower is a shade over 49m, but I think it is a little higher than the silo. in any case, I imagine the replacement will be taller.
@ctesiphon wrote:
the R&H Hall building
Is it still planned to redevelop this as an apartment tower?
I live near here, and several taxi drivers and pub bores have complained to me that a 1916 rising site will be destoyed to build apartments. Telling them that DeValera’s crew occupied a building in Boland’s flour mills on Grand Canal Street, and that the concrete towers overloking the docks are obviously no more than fifty years old, doesn’t tend to register.
What sort of scale is the proposal, does anyone know? Given the height of the silos, the nearby Millennium Tower and Treasury’s approved 16 and 18 storey buildings nearby, it is presumably big? Treasury withdrew its application for a 32 storey building next door a few months ago.
Sadly, it’s actually the best building in that shot. There is a neglected townhouse squeezed in there, but it’s in very poor condition.
Was the grafitti from that moron “Grift” erased by the time of the second photo of the new development, or was it taken earlier?
edit: looking more closely, the first photo is obviously during construction.
Mixed Use – Blackthorn Avenue
Some history:
This might help:
http://members.fortunecity.com/chtii/irish/pwford.htm#boro
Castleboro and your ruin, conveniently together on the page.
