Radioactiveman
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In a similair vein. what do people think of the new extension to the Museum in Fitzgerald park?
I’m still not sure about it. Haven’t been inside it yet but the outside reminds me of the new x-ray building in CUH.As i said before, i was totally against the Gluksman when it was first proposed simply because i saw it as overdevelopment of UCC’s exquisite lower grounds.
However, every time i look at the finished article i realise how wrong i was. This is without doubt, a perfect building. I honesty cannot find anything wrong with it. The heights are dictated by the mature surrounding trees. The material, though modern, fit perfectly with its riverside location.
The building itself is fantastic.
The only problem i have is with what is inside it. Seems like an awful lot of money to spend for a college that is cutting services to students and postgrads by the day!
Also, if the aim of the gallery is to ‘bring’ art to the unclean masses of cork city, i have to say the cofee shop didnt quite get the memo. It’s about 1 million euro for a cup of coffee and you have to wait to be seated!! Talk about up their own arses, go over to the student centre and get a cup of tea and choclate muffin…then u can admire the Glucksman out the window.Radioactiveman!!!
This argument is getting a little boring so, we’ll have to agree to disagree for the sake of people who dont give a damn about the bus station.
For the record… Horgan’s Quay ain’t City Centre. Maybe in 10/15 years time when Horgans Quay site and Docklands is up and running, then it could be described as city centre.
Maybe this will all work out brilliantly. Maybe by spending a paltry amount on the recent refurbishment, they’ll be able to move the station to Horgans quay in a few decades when it actually becomes beneficial to do so.
Maybe CIE are geniuses………. although, then again, no.Chack out the advert in the sports section of todays examiner re. upgraded Bus Station.
Excess of 90% wanted it to stay at Parnell Place. Also, this is the view of European transport ministers.The argument for moving to Horgan’s Quay goes something like this:
People arrive in Cork by train, they should be able to get bus to west cork, etc. on site. Fair enough… BUT,
What about people who arrive in Cork by plane, should we therefore move the station to the airport?
What about people who arrive in Cork by Bus? Sure 5% might want to get a train to Cobh, Mallow, etc., but the majority surely either wish to stay in the City or travel on by Bus, so there is nothing to be gained from moving to Horgan’s Quay.
A simple shuttle bus service between Parnell Place and Kent Station will provide for the small amount of people who wish to make a train/bus transition. There is simply no, logical motive for moving the train station and Bus station together.
Let that be the end of it! 🙂Re. The Academy Street/Patrick Street shopping centre proposed by O’Callaghan. Is he going to knock the St. Patrick Street facade of the block? I fear another Merchants Quay is on the way.
How much of the block is going to be knocked?I totally agree with you Lexington. Anyone objecting without consulting the file needs to be locked up!
On the issue of Ladyswell, I hear Frinailla plan to provide space for a Library here. I’m no expert, but how can they do this if the Central Library has no intention of moving the library at the Cathedral to this ‘new’ location (I have been in contact with the Library on this matter).
Isn’t Frinailla just trying to butter-up residents with the promise pf something which may never materialise, with the ‘library’ eventually being converted to office space??I’ll look forward to those pictures if you can get them. Thanks
Radioactiveman!!!“Can no project just go through the Local Authority? “
“people’s respect for Local Authority decisions?”Lexington, you and i both know that CCC have made some disasterous cock-ups over the years. We’ll all be thankful to ABP when CCC drops the ball again.
“Frinailla’s Ladyswell project along the Watercourse Road is currently in Further Information at the moment. Its a highly positive and substantial development – but of course, as always, Kathleen Lynch (Labour) et al are throwing objections up like a bat on laxatives. Purely political of course.”
In fairness to Kathleen Lynch et al, who i’ve dealt with once or twice, the first proposal for this site scared the crap out of local residents, Frinailla brought this trouble on themselves by pushing too hard. The residents are a hell of a lot more suspicious now.
And even you have to admit, that Frinailla’s first offer at this site was diabolical.
Lexington, since you seem to know a scary amount about the planning process, do you have any info on what the new Archives building in Blackpool will look like? I’ve tried CCC for info, to no avail. Can you help? Thanks, keep up the good work.I dont see the point in moving the bus station to Horgans quay. It is an essential public service which should remainn where 90% of the users actually requested it stay. After its reorgainising it works perfectly and is coping very well.
Nothing will happen at the Horgan’s Quay site for at least another 5-6 years. Thats the way CIE want it and thats what we’re stuck with.
Re. Docklands development, there is a beautiful building fronting the west bank of the river (i think its the odlums building) this has to be kept in any re-invention of the docklands. It looks perfect for a public building along the lines of the Tate Gallery in London.
As far as i’m concerned, the rest of the Docklands is a blank canvas, We need something like the Dublin Docklands Committee to get the thing going though.
We’ve got to watch out for th emistakes though– remember that thing proposed for Water Street awhile back— no problem with the height, no problem with the density, but god help us it was a bit bland and uniform. With the docklands as a blank canvas, Cork people expect a masterpiece, not a collection of useless scribbles.Radioactiveman!!!
Does anybody have any details on Frinailla’s plans for their “Lady’s Well” development on Watercourse Road, Blackpool?
Also, anybody know what the new Cork City Archive in Blackpool is going to look like?Obviously PUG doesnt get the bus very often. Its completely out of the question to ask people to walk to Horgan’s Quay to get a bus to Dublin. Beside’s if we were waiting for a move to Horgan’s Quay we’d still have the shithole (excuse the language) that we were used to.
Basically the improvements to the station was a new Canopy at front, a less impressive new canopy at the back, a new layout inside and most importantly, a wash.
The new system of boarding and electronic signage is excellent, and for a change, actually works.Apparently, CIE won’t develop Horgan’s Quay because CCC wont leave them put shops in there. CCC are damn right, we cant be extending the retail centre like that, its totally misguided. But then we are dealing with CIE here….
Radioactiveman!!!
The bus station looks ok now. Not great. but a big improvement on what went before. Considering the paltry amount of money CIE made available for the job its not bad.
Merchants Quay facing the river is poor, but to be fair, I think there’s a bit of romance being built around the ‘old’ Merchants Quay. It was a tip. Something needed to be done and in the unenlightened 80’s, i guess thats the best they could manage. Sad but true. I heard something about planning for a third floor on the centre. What’s the story with that?
Re. the retail units under apartments near the Gate, all but one have never had any tenants. There was a bar in the first one, but thats gone for a few years.
What do people think about that yoke west of the opera house? Looks good?… yes/no?The Gate Cinema is great. Shame about the apartments to the right of them.
Also, the proximity of the apartments to the left of them makes North Main Street look like a little alleyway when you look across from the bridge.In fairness to the people of Dennehys Cross you cant really blame them for being a bit nervous after seeing that appalling building on Victoria cross nearby.
I’m totally in favour of tall buildings in that area but that took the biscuit.
Also, i think people in Dennehy’s cross have a point…the loss of a post office and most of the little corner shops is a bad thing for ANY community, rural or urban. Its a bad day when thay have to walk to town or Wilton to buy a bottle of milk and a stamp.Glad to see I have some support in my dislike of Victoria Cross.
Still looking for any info./pics on of the new City Archives building in Blackpool. Anybody able to help?Let me make this clear from the start, there is NOTHING wrong with tall buildings. Build them as high as you want, it doesnt bother me in the least.
The thing that bothers me about Victoria cross i guess is its monolithic appearance. It is so square, so smooth.. i just dont like it and if you ask me, it looks cheap. As regards it not being prominent, approach it via Western Road coming out of town, that sheer wall of glass is disturbing to say the least.
Anyway, its just my opinion and im not going to push it down anybody’s throat.
The new building on the Bypass looks good. The rejuvenation of the Blackpool flats further out the bypass look even better.
So, Bunch, you never told us your Best and worst 3!! Cough it upRadioactiveman!!!
The reason Victoria Cross is being singled out is because of its prominent position. I agree, there are many other horendous buildings in Cork (and many fine ones also). Victoria Cross, in my humble opinion, looks cheap, totally uninspired…and will someone please tell the students to buy some curtains (I’m a student myself by the way).
I was actually refering to the building adjacent to the temporary Court House. I think they look great. In saying this, those further up John Street also look good.
On the subject of the Court House (the original one by the way—yes children, that’s what was behind those hoardings opposite riordans for all these years) I passed there today. There is now NO access via the steps in front. All access is via a tiny side door at the side. Thsi is incredibly strange. They have actually blocked off the steps so there is no way people can enter through the grand original doorways. Shame on OPW.Anyway, back to the BEST/WORST of Cork list…. keep the opinions coming please
Radioactiveman!!!
