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  • in reply to: request for clarification U2 tower #736614
    MOL
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    Is all this foul mouthed language being used generally on this site really necessary?

    I understand of course that sometimes people become downright passionate about certain issues and this disscussion forum allows for an expression of such feelings.

    However I feel that such colourful language only serves to diminish the seriousness of this important service and in no way aids in a clearer understanding of what people wish to say, particularly for foreign offices.

    Architects in general have difficulties being heard and I believe especially Irish ones who are not usually noticed elsewhere. Archeire provides an opportunity for the Irish architect to have a global voice. A voice that should be intelligible and clear.

    in reply to: U2 studio entries #727229
    MOL
    Participant

    We received the competition shortlist via internet today!

    Regarding how the competition has been organised until now, we were in fact quite surprised to see any information at all.

    However, on closer examination a curious fact comes to light! From the 60 or so architects who submitted their work to the Archeire site, only 8 have been chosen for the exhibition to take place in Dublin this month and just for information almost all come from the anglo-world.

    Funny little fact wouldn’t you agree!!

    Another point which I would like to mention again in connection to the Shortlist is the amazing reoccurrance of certain offices again and again. I think I saw one office with 4 entries !

    If competitions are to be run fairly then to allow an office, usually one with substancial monetary clout who can afford to pay the entrance fee a number of times ( win or lose )
    is really contrary to fair play !

    A a middle-large office we take part regularly in international competitions and until now have never experienced that an office send more than one entry. It is simply not allowed.

    At the Dublin Tower Competition because absolutely nothing except it seems the acceptance of the entry fee, was professionally organised, an office could have theoretically entered a thousand times! What an absurd fact ! Imagine even further that an office manages to win all the prizes available !
    A suffocatingly embarrassing situation !

    Actually it is quite beyond my comprehension to imagine how an architect can submit more than one design for any competition. Surely he tries to submit the concept/idea that he believes to be the most suited to that particular brief. Is then his second or third entry his second or third best idea? If so then why does he bother to hand in the second or third at all. I mean if an architect has a style or design philosophy then surely if the jury does not like his first entry then how can he hope that they will suddenly elevate his fifth choice entry to the winning position ?

    Obviously some architects did, without a thought or notion as to what such a behaviour communicates, both professionally and to a wider audience.

    in reply to: U2 studio entries #727121
    MOL
    Participant

    I believe there is a general disapointnent to be interpreted if one reads the postings on this web page and that few if any people seem to express a positive attitude towards this tower project.

    I particularly find the realistic criticism from the gentleman in Santa Monica,whom has quite rightly pointed out that this building is very much uneconomical in its conception, a very constructive observation!

    I also find however that to simply accept the results of such an appallingly organised international competition without a single word of protest is from our perspective another lost opportunity.The winning selection is one matter but I strongly believe that an attempt should be made to contact city newspapers and to find a way to reveal to people the scope of events, with delays and lack of transparency, especially regarding the jury membership. I have been involved with over 20 international competittions and have as of yet never experienced that the jury members and their professional positions was withheld from the participants and until now never revealed. Why should this be a secret ?
    Why was there such a delay in announcing a winner ? How and where and on what date did the jury meet ? Did they meet as a group or as said to me on the telephone on one particular occasion did they visit the entries individually and sometimes together ?
    Why was this internationally renouned company engaged at the very close of the competition and why were participants asked to send their entries a second time, when all competitions normally ask for one example of the work ?

    I am sure there are many more questions to be asked but I feel that to remain silent at this point and on such an important subject would be a grave error !

    in reply to: U2 studio entries #727083
    MOL
    Participant

    Having waited, as everyone else has, for an unexceptably long time, one gets the feeling that it was unfortunately not really worth waiting for at all.

    After seeing the first images of this competition winner, which I admit are of a relatively small scale and therefore difficult to read, I cannot help but thinking that Dublin has squandered an opportunity in providing the city with a world class building.

    I find that nothing about this building image displays any contextual or indeed Landmark merits. Such a quality of building one usually expects to find in some investors development portfolio and indeed this tower appears as if it could be built anywhere and unfortunately is in many cities and towns throughout the world.
    The fact that each storey seems to have been treated similarly, raises the question as to where is the music studio? I find it relatively hard to believe that it is contained in this ‘hat-like’ structure on the roof of the building which seems to have taken its inspiration from the ‘Messeturm’ in Frankfurt am Main, Germany,
    also a featureless example of 80’s American Highrise Architecture. This building has in the mean time been christened by the people of Frankfurt as the ‘Pencil’. A wonderful and inspiring name for a Highrise Tower as I am sure everyone will agree !

    And it is about inspiration and a sense of belonging to a place that must be , I feel, some of the most important design criteria for a Landmark Tower in a European capital city.
    This competition winning entry does not seem to fill this Landmark role and seems also not to react in any significant way to industrial surrounds or to, and probably most importantly, the river which guides ships into the city and for this one needs a gate or marker or beacon.

    I am very dissapointed that such an entry was chosen as the best and i am fully convinced that after such an object is build that it will receive little if any international recognision.

    I would be very interested to know who indeed was on the jury and what particular qualifications they possesed to judge such an important building for Dublin. Which architects were involved or were there any at all ? Any internationally renowned or even foreign architects or designers in the panel ? These factors which I cannot seem to find are the fundamentals of a well organised and high quality competition, essential to a good result.
    A result that in this case seems to leave alot to be desired.

    I suggest that this new building should be named the ‘ Dublin Tower ‘ because the only element that makes it any way ‘ Landmark’ is its height, which simply structurally is, and its prominent location which was existing. A ‘Landmark’ Tower it is not.

    in reply to: U2 studio entries #727019
    MOL
    Participant

    Mistake !!

    in reply to: U2 studio entries #727018
    MOL
    Participant

    If we are not badly mistaken, there was a site from these architects by the name of Doonan from somewhere in the US.

    Is this the architect who was obviously offended by some comments on his Tower entry and who formally requested that his work should not be published anymore or is there another reason for this sudden disapperance of his Tower ?

    Irrelevant of the reason however I still believe,
    and indeed this belief is legally supported, that any architects who publish their competition entries prior to a jury decision, clearly must be disqualified

    in reply to: U2 studio entries #727005
    MOL
    Participant

    The U2 Landmark Tower Competition is in all respects an anonymous competition and if therefore an architect decides to publish his work premature to the decision of the competition jury, he of course has given up his anonymous position and clearly must be disqualified.

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