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  • #727073
    GregF
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    ….and that’s supposed to be a unique landmark for Dublin city……..F**king Hell!

    Oops I forgot …It’s ties in with the other shite they’re building down there.

    #727074
    doozer
    Participant

    That said…..the IDN entry looked v. nice. Pity the judges didn’t have more guts, the Twisting Tower (snigger) is very coporate looking.

    #727075
    colinsky
    Participant

    The IDN entry feels very industrial, in a way that would merge nicely with the cranes, bridges, and rusty hardware still down in the docklands area. I’m not sure if would fit in quite as when all the other hardware is finally removed.

    #727076
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Originally posted by doozer
    Oh for the love of GOD!!!!

    ‘Unique twisted design’?????

    It the same concept as the Turning Torso. It performs the same function and is situated on a similar site. (And that building is a monstrosity)

    have you a picture?

    #727077
    Andrew Duffy
    Participant
    #727078
    WillC
    Participant

    I like the design. If I’m reading the article right the overall height of the building will be 78.4 metres. Correct me if i’m wrong, but that’s considerably higher than liberty hall at 59 metres.
    78 metres is a nice height but i’d like it to be taller

    #727079
    cf
    Participant

    I’ll say it again…

    Does nobody think it odd that the winning team of architects includes the brother-in-law of U2 manager Paul McGuinness…???!!!

    #727080
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    It is odd, but I’m sure it is co-incidence. To say otherwise without evidence to backup your claim is libel.

    Let’s not all rush to the drawer marked irish begrudgery – lets congratulate them on winning. It will be easier to dissect the design at planning stage.

    #727081
    Rory W
    Participant

    Originally posted by d_d_dallas
    Well at leasy Gehry isn’t letting the U2 debacle stop him from fiding other commissions (from skyscrapers.com:

    ***News: Brighton set for Gehry towers

    Read this weeks “Nooks and Corners” (Architecture Column) in Private Eye magazine for a review of this building – from the sounds of it is truely awful and the CGI does it no favours. My favorite quote from it “The landmark element proposed is a wobbly 38-storey tower which promises to loom over the surrounding three- or four-storey stuccoed terraces like a Terry Gilliam monster in a Monty Python cartoon”.

    #727082
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I think its quite interesting, I like the way its city & bay facades are completely different … As far as I can make out too, the max height of the structure is 78.4 metres, the last inhabitable floor, U2’s studio, is at 60m.

    #727083
    MOL
    Participant

    Having waited, as everyone else has, for an unexceptably long time, one gets the feeling that it was unfortunately not really worth waiting for at all.

    After seeing the first images of this competition winner, which I admit are of a relatively small scale and therefore difficult to read, I cannot help but thinking that Dublin has squandered an opportunity in providing the city with a world class building.

    I find that nothing about this building image displays any contextual or indeed Landmark merits. Such a quality of building one usually expects to find in some investors development portfolio and indeed this tower appears as if it could be built anywhere and unfortunately is in many cities and towns throughout the world.
    The fact that each storey seems to have been treated similarly, raises the question as to where is the music studio? I find it relatively hard to believe that it is contained in this ‘hat-like’ structure on the roof of the building which seems to have taken its inspiration from the ‘Messeturm’ in Frankfurt am Main, Germany,
    also a featureless example of 80’s American Highrise Architecture. This building has in the mean time been christened by the people of Frankfurt as the ‘Pencil’. A wonderful and inspiring name for a Highrise Tower as I am sure everyone will agree !

    And it is about inspiration and a sense of belonging to a place that must be , I feel, some of the most important design criteria for a Landmark Tower in a European capital city.
    This competition winning entry does not seem to fill this Landmark role and seems also not to react in any significant way to industrial surrounds or to, and probably most importantly, the river which guides ships into the city and for this one needs a gate or marker or beacon.

    I am very dissapointed that such an entry was chosen as the best and i am fully convinced that after such an object is build that it will receive little if any international recognision.

    I would be very interested to know who indeed was on the jury and what particular qualifications they possesed to judge such an important building for Dublin. Which architects were involved or were there any at all ? Any internationally renowned or even foreign architects or designers in the panel ? These factors which I cannot seem to find are the fundamentals of a well organised and high quality competition, essential to a good result.
    A result that in this case seems to leave alot to be desired.

    I suggest that this new building should be named the ‘ Dublin Tower ‘ because the only element that makes it any way ‘ Landmark’ is its height, which simply structurally is, and its prominent location which was existing. A ‘Landmark’ Tower it is not.

    #727084
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    It’s quite intriguing that the architect (Felim Dunne) who designed U2’s first studio is the winning architect. Coincidences do happen …

    Was the DDDA required to hold a competition for this project? Or, was it a publicity act? As an American, I am unfamiliar with your rules in Ireland. Was this a complete waste of 599 firms’/architects’ (including those whose entries were thrown out) time?

    As a general question to anyone, or in particular to anyone who has served on a jury, does “anonymous” mean anything to anybody?

    Kudos to U2 – you certainly didn’t go down without a fight!

    http://u2log.com/archive/001402.shtml

    January 9, 2002
    Hanover Quay not ‘pleasant’
    The Irish Independent reports on the ongoing battle over the planned demolition of U2’s Hanover Quay studios.

    The DDDA (Dublin Docklands Development Authority) have said the buildings were not particularly pleasant looking. Paul McGuinness says: ‘This is a fully equipped state-of-the-art recording studio and also a rather interesting modern building. It does not look much from the outside but the interior was designed by the (award winning) architect Felim Dunne.”

    U2, who have been recording on the premises since 1994, have said they won’t go down without a fight.

    A Planning Board oral hearing on the matter will take place at the Gresham Hotel in Dublin in two weeks time.

    #727085
    Jetcetera
    Participant

    Please let us and anyone else out there know if a protest is coming, we will gladly sign any petition to reverse this travesty.

    #727086
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    We could call this wonderfull erect building the Dublin Campenile.

    It has at the same time the splendid erectile quality of Italian architecture as well as the twist to keep it fashionable.

    Very nice prototype of a certain object, but too big to allow handling.

    #727087
    sw101
    Participant

    protest is right. this building is a joke

    #727088
    WillC
    Participant

    I guess I’m in the minority here. I like the winning entry. I can’t say if it was the best choice of all the entries, but I do like it. I don’t know how else you could make a ‘slim point block’ much more interesting in fairness.

    I really hope the dunloe ewart tower is built next to it though, the two together would look well on the quays, in an otherwise boring, and exceptionally monotonous environment.

    #727089
    DogsonFire-2
    Participant

    So, there we have it, a result which at least puts the stress back in the cupboard for the architects till the next competition! But…………. mmmmmmm…….indeed, a disappointing result. Not because of the associations which other draw with regards to the design, its authors relationship with U2 etc, etc but the complete lack of confident qualities which such a structure must provide. It was to be the Totem under which the divided could unite, the Vision which would brush away the differences of the conservatives , conservationists, and bigots. It has done perhaps quite the opposite and revived all these rather banal and negative tendencies without offering a Vision.

    Surely it will be the landmark, as its scale will prevail in this attribute but not, perhaps, one which can in anyway be comparable to that of Calatrava’s tower in Malmo which is delivering this spirit of the totem. Pelli’s Canary wharf tower, well of course shapes are shapes are this is similar shape but so what, the critical issue is- the shape is not compatible with the gyroscopic kinetic which the twist is supposed to suggest. Or maybe we can refer to the metabolic structures of Kurokawa as a sauce(sic) for reference. But as I inferred before this is just hot air as the issue of Vision and Totem have not, in my opinion, been met.

    It is interesting the identity of the jury were never published. In all competitions, one of the main issues an architect examines is the Jury list, to determine the leanings the judging might have. This was not possible here, and in many ways the competitors entered with a key component undeclared.

    But , the “Jury” have announced the winner……………..and that’s that. A lost opportunity.

    #727090
    vvvvv4
    Participant

    I think maybe it’s a good idea to post other entries here since I don’t see they are gonna make a book of all entries.

    #727091
    Desmund
    Participant

    I like it. I think it’s interesting. I also hope this is the first of many similar buildings in terms of height and modernity in this area. And, many of you may laugh when I suggest this, but with enough tastefull landmark buildings and leisure amenities another Darling Harbour (Sydney) could be created here.

    #727092
    notjim
    Participant

    its pretty good; modern, interesting and stylish.

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