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This is the best I can do for the moment.
Baptistry Door. I have put is as an attachment also, as it appears to be very slow appearing on the page.
Main doors
@Paul Clerkin wrote:
I think this is most of the Irish ones that I have photos of….
Great photos – I particularly like the doors, though I am not sure what is going on in St. Anne’s Belfast, is that glass inside the doors?
St. Canice’s Kilkenny
St. Mary’s Limerick
St. John’s Limerick
St. Patrick’s Armagh Church of Ireland
St. Patrick’s Catholic Cathedral, Armagh
St.Finn Barre’s Cork.
St. Anne’s Belfast@Graham Hickey wrote:
The mind boggles how such drastic alterations could be carried out at any time, even the 1970s, and that they be permitted by so many people, not least the church’s own congregation. Was there any disquiet at the time.
I don’t know about Dublin, but there was great opposition in Carlow as there is now in Cobh, but should the appeals to ABP fail, Bishop Magee and O’Neill et al. will forge ahead irregardless.
I believe if you were to investigate you would find that the congregation of the pro-cathedral were presented with a fait accompli. Also in the 1970’s people tended to trust their priests and bishops and would never have contemplated going against them on any issue. This situation has changed and nowadays it is usually the more committed catholics who object to the destruction of their churches/cathedrals. The vast majority are generally too apathetic to bother. Unfortunately many clerics are still living in the past and tend to think that any opposition to their plans is tantamount to perfidy. 🙁“In County Cork, the fashion for gothicising houses continued: At Castle Freke, in Rosscarbery, Sir John Evans-Freke (6th Lord Carbery) commissioned architect Sir Richard Morrison, in the years leading up to 1820, to transform a rambling set of buildings into an elaborate castellated complex. Work on Castle Freke continued for over two decades. Morrison added a medieval flavour with polygonal towers, a gateway with portcullis and crenellations, but otherwise left the Classical facade of the house intact. [M. Bence-Jones, p. 68]”http://www.crawfordartgallery.com/1800-1825.html
Another interesting titbit re Castlefreake.
@Praxiteles wrote:
“There seems to be little or no appreciation of ecclesiastical architecture amongst the clergy. The cathedral I built at Enniscorthy is completely ruined. The bishop has blocked up the choir, and stuck an altar under the tower!!…it could hardly have been treated worse had it fallen into the hands of the Hottentots….It is quite useless to attempt to build true churches , for the clergy have not the least idea of using them properly. A.W.N. Pugin
I wonder what Pugin would have to say about our current crop of ecclisiastical Hottentots 😉
Another very interesting aspect of the Cobh Cathedral project is that no one seems to know how much it is all going to cost. From what the local parishioners were told at a meeting to display the plans, it would appear that the application for planning permission was sought without any idea of how much it would cost. Is this usual practice in these circumstances?
@Graham Hickey wrote:
What came of the appeal to the Supreme Court do you know Praxiteles?
I noticed that no one has attempted to answer your question. To the best of my knowledge the Friends of Carlow Cathedral lost their case in the Supreme Court – legend has it that one man lost his home as a result. I have tried following this story up on the web but there is nothing obviously available.
Does anybody know which architect is responsible for the re-ordering of St.Peters in Belfast? Was it perhaps Ray Carroll?
O’Neill’s proposals for Cobh Cathedral look more and more like re-heated soup. -see attachment.
There is a very obvious lack of imagination in both clerical and architectural circles in Ireland.
😮 Just where do these clapped out prototypes come from?Could there be hope for Killarney at last!!! Did you all see the article below in the Sunday Indo. today?
Magnificent artifacts to return to Gothic Cathedral
JEROME REILLY
MAGNIFICENT artefacts removed from Pugin’s Gothic masterpiece, St Mary’s Cathedral in Killarney could be re-installed, if a historian and antiques expert has his way.
The cathedral was finally completed in the Twenties following some 80 years of construction work.
But in the early Seventies, under the direction of Bishop Eamon Casey, the cathedral was remodelled to take account of changes in the liturgy demanded by Vatican II.
That included the removal of a dozen brass chandeliers and a number of magnificent brass candelabra which then fell into private ownership.
Those artefacts were recently purchased by local historian and antiques dealer Maurice O’Keeffe who was very much aware of their historic provenance.
“I have restored one of them and they are magnificent. I would be more than willing to let the church have them for exactly the same amount I paid for them so they could be re-installed,” he said.
The cathedral was designed by Augustus Welby Pugin and is renowned for its Gothic proportions.
Work commenced in 1842 but stopped between 1848 and 1853 because of the famine, when the building was used as a hospital.
The Californian Redwood tree in the grounds was planted after the famine in memory of the children buried underneath. Pugin died insane in Ramsgate in 1885.Neo Goth. Given the etymology of the discription ‘Gothic’ I do believe that it is His Lordship Bishop Magee who should bear that tag rather than your good self
Thanks for that.
Can anyone confirm that the mosaic work in Charleville – that can still be seen – is by Oppenheimer.Information on Ludwig Oppenheimer is difficult to come by. What I know is that, in addition to St. Colman’s Cathedral, he is credited with the magnificent mosaics in the National Museum of Ireland –Archaeology and History. The floors are decorated with scenes from classical mythology and allegory, and are worth a visit to the museum in themselves. He is also credited with the wonderful mosaic floor of the Honan Chapel, University College, Cork.
Biographical details for Oppenheimer, is very difficult to come by, perhaps other visitor this site may be able to help.Information on Ludwig Oppenheimer is difficult to come by. What I know is that, in addition to St. Colman’s Cathedral, he is credited with the magnificent mosaics in the National Museum of Ireland –Archaeology and History. The floors are decorated with scenes from classical mythology and allegory, and are worth a visit to the museum in themselves. He is also credited with the wonderful mosaic floor of the Honan Chapel, University College, Cork. Biographical details for Oppenheimer, I have found, is very difficult to come by, perhaps other visitor this site may be able to help.
