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dallas the echo had an article about the concert/coference venue planned for Cork. There are 3 options, 1 city centre (Horgan’s quay), 1 for the showgrounds, and 1 for Mahon Point. The CCC would prefer the city centre option, but it looks like O’Callaghan is going to push ahead with the Mahon one and there is no economic sense in having 2!
any news on that high rise apartment block down the docks Lexington?
was home over the weekend and I thought Cork was looking alot cleaner than a few months ago, a slap of tarmac goes a long way, and at last that drainage system has been finished!!
article in today’s indo on decentralisation:
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1223377&issue_id=11204
totally agree with the part
This plan only represents the continued expansion of Dublin into the Midlands, or a shift of boundaries,”
Originally posted by Graham Hickey
And no coincidence that the Luas is one of the Irish Rural Dwellers Association’s greatest weapons in stirring up the anti-Dublin frenzy.
you can call this having a chip on my shoulder or being bitter, whatever you want, but the facts speak for themselves!!
Dublin has a population of 1.2 million, gets 800million for Luas and more than likely another billion for the Metro, Cork City and environs population 350,000, gets a lousy 100million for suburban routes!!!! do the maths, it smacks of Dublinisation!!!!
Don’t get me wrong this is not an anti dub thing, more of an anti government thing!!
Originally posted by Diaspora
There were jobs decentralised out of Cork City recently as well was it to Bandon or Macroom?
How do Cork people feel about it?
Personally, I’d have no problem moving to any of the places you mentioned even Clon but on spatial planning grounds only places the size of Sligo or bigger would work I think.
2,000 semi-state jobs including Failte Ireland would do Cork no harm and would aid your plans for a commercially viable trans-atlantic service.
2,000 jobs for Cork, but how many of these will actually come about?? It’s grand giving the jobs to places like Clon if you are starting from scratch, but when you are asking people to move from Dublin the least you can do is give them a viable option!
The governement seems to be killing it’s own spatial plan with it’s decentralisation plans!
As for Dublin dieing a death I don’t think ye need worry about that, what will kill Dublin is over centralisation, which has been going on for decades now. But the major problems with this have only become apparent in the last 10 years.
In it’s present form I think decentralisation should be stopped, but the problem there is that no politician will go near it again for years if it is.
Seems to have been very poorly planned with politics and not common sense playing too big a role. First they developed the spatial plan, which seemed fairly manageable if maybe a bit thinly spread out. Then with decentralisation they totally neglected their new strategy making the whole thing a bit of a farce.
IMHO large population centres should get most of the jobs, such as Cork, Limerick, Waterford, Galway, Sligo….etc.. instead they give them to places like Clonakilty, which is a very nice town but is not going to attract your average civil servant. Another recommendation was to have most of the positions near Dublin so as to avail of the airport, which seems to me to defeat the whole purpose of decentralisation, in effect creating a (bigger) Dublin sprawl. Build up the other airports??? Dublin is already at breaking point!!
Anyway they need to stop treating it as a political football and make some tough decisions because in the end it is going to be as bad for Dublin as it is for the rest of the country……………and we are already seeing plenty of examples!!
firstly I was wondering is there any news on the proposed Cork to NY route that was mentioned somewhere at the start of this thread?
Also lexington I thought that IT centre for UCC had got planning ages ago, thought they should have started construction well before now!!
BTW good thread and the updates are excellent Lexington, keep us informed!!
