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Meant to say there is a pedestrian bridge there already between the visitor centre and the Newgrange side
Sorry – you miss understand me.
Newgrange is on the northern bank, the visitor centre is on the southern bank (the same side as the railway).
Development wouldn’t be that big an issue as there isn’t a direct road to Duleek, and it is a world heritage site..
Thanks – the visitor centre is actually on the same side of the river as the rail – there is a footbridge linking it accross the Boyne..
Pity is wasn’t within walking distance..
@Thomond Park wrote:
Thanks guys a lot of work went into those reports from a number of people and perspectives,
it is very easy to call for lines to be reopened it is another thing being able to use the Strategic Rail Review and McCann report type criteria to prove that on a realistic cost base and at realistic passenger demand levels that the lines would sustain themeselves at the same level as Dart on an annual cost per passenger basis.
Can I just check if anyone can tell how close the line runs to Newgrange visitor centre?
I know it’s up the hill but I don’t have a map to hand
The proposal on the platform 11 site is excellent as it also encompasses Duleek.
Fair play guys – effectively you would have reduced pressure from Slane etc on the N2 as well as the N3 if you follow that logic
I actually agree with you completely – a couple of trains a day is what is being demanded as a start, plus the inclusion of bridges on the M3..
A service which isn’t there at present, and not adding obstacles to opening the line long term.
That is a fine start.
I understand what you mean by south of the Boyne.
But consider that the M3 is going to bring huge growth all the way to Cavan. It’s already happening, and that is just with an N3. Don’t mind Meath population figures alone, because you have to add Cavan figures too.
Start from a given. Blanch is a no-go area at present. This is going to get worse. Economically, socially, etc etc the Dublin Navan line is a must. Kells and the Cavan hinterland (apologies Cavan) is breathing down Navan’s neck.
Do realise how little employment is in Meath and Cavan? Most people work in Dublin, so from a practicle view point, and in the absense of planning carried out in a sensilbe fashion you have to assume most of the growth will be on the northerly M3 corridor, not easterly along the boyne
You have to leave the door open to Kells long term, because no-one is sure where this growth is leading us. But yes you are right, Navan Dunshaughlin and Ratoath are the short term cosniderqations.
Howeverm your plan is a start not an end..
I personally am not in a position to offer any definatives other than to say that there is an appetite and a need for rail to Navan and eventually to Kells.
You are right – if you are going to construct single line you may as well do double. But like most camapigns there is a list of needs and wants.
The Navan rail link is a need and a want. The Kells issue is more of a want at this point, but that doesn’t change the likelyhood that it may well be feasible and probably nessessary at a later point.
One of the major problems is the lack of foreplanning like as is happening with the M3 being built acrross the old Navan rail route without bridging at Cannistown. Just because something isn’t an imperative now, doesn’t mean it won’t be later, particularly with current growth rates in Meath.
No-one can rule Kells out, because Kells may become the Navan of tomorrow, and should be treated as such..
One thing cannot be denied and that is that you can’t rule anything out in Meath.
Kells will happen, probably a single line, but it lies well out side of the problem area. Long term Kells is going to need rail, but first express services are needed Navan – Drogheda – Dublin. Plans for Dublin Navan need to be agreed now. Long-term Kells has to come into it, because Meath is growing like rag-worth
No – consider it planning. Everyone in Meath is an M50 victim even if you don’t go on it. Everyone up here in Meath wants this choice, even more hungrily than they desire an M3.
Meath is going to keep growing as if it has been feed weed-killer, and plans based on this population growth need to be put in place now.
The blockage in the Blanch bottle-neck is just going to be rammed tighter and thicker if we don’t open the Drogheda link short term, and the Navan Dublin line long term
It’s not environmnetalism, it’s pure blunt commuter realism.
Only good short term. Meath is already 10,000 people above 2011 estimates, as reported in Meath Chronicle last week, and Navan is set to increase in size bu 2/3’s.
Short term solution yes, long-term no.
Bertie Ahern: ‘If you take a pencil and account for things like archaeology you will never do anything.’
Here’s the article http://www.tarasos.com/index.php?id=75
No wonder we are in this mess.. :confused:
There you go – visit http://www.tarasos.com for more photos
@J. Seerski wrote:
M3 puts into sharper focus the priority the motor car gets over public transport
Has anyone noticed that the Dunboyne rail link for Meath isn’t that much of a rail solution for Meath?
It will be located on the Dublin Meath Border, located after the 2nd toll on the M3.
So if you want to use this service you will have to pay up to 2 tolls, your train ticket and your parking charges to use the ‘Rail solution for Meath’!
Back to the M3 – the old railway passed Tara to the west because it is a flat plain. The current route of the M3 through Tara’s Gabhra valley means the M3 climbs to go in, decends to go out. And all that without the roller-coaster weaving it does just to avoid monuments, etc. Surely any eejit can see the west makes sense!
And just to mention Broadstone – the Luas passes only a few blocks away – be much better to open Broadstone again..! I am sick of being an M50 victim each morning because I can’t pass from Blanch to Clonsilla on the way from Meath to Dublin city centre because the N3 is clogged at the Blanch shopping centre..
Can anyone tell me why they don’t build a bridge NOW to allow traffic going from Blanch to cross over the M50 unhindered on the way to the CC? Why is everyone on the N3 an M50 victim even if they don’t use it????
As just placed in the M3 thread, the huge bevy bringing the M3 into Tara’s Gabhra valley has got to be the worst in terms of design and wanton offensiveness to anyone that cares about their heritage. Look at the map at http://www.tarasos.com. The current route is too long, puts a 28 acre interchange at the bottom of the hill of Tara and adds c.3.5km to the 10m stretch between Navan & Dunshaughlin. This isn’t about moaning about a road for no good reason – the current route is daft!
And because of the winding and sloping route through the Tara Gabhra valley it will probably be a 80km – 100km zone like the Firhouse Sandyford stretch on the M50, or the Chapelizod bypass. Why, oh why build it like this when it could go straight as an arrow on a shorter to the west! Daft.
