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@Paul Clerkin wrote:

From the property supplement….

sold for “over €6million”. Reckon Tom gets a cut?

@Praxiteles wrote:

I am surprised that you did not raise the subject yourself before now.

What’s next – will you take your ball and go home? James, I’d just quit while you’re ahead. They’re very good at destructive criticism in this thread. Take the new Jurys hotel for example – subject to varied criticism in here (some bloke called Chris didn’t like it cause it didn’t look good roight?) It’s been trading for 2 months now and I don’t think it’s even been remarked upon. My point is that it’s all very well looking at the future but it’s also important to judge how a building survives the process and how the planning process moulds a scheme from inception to realisation. I’m also going to be in cork in january and I’d like to know whether it’s worth staying there(!)

@The Denouncer wrote:

Elsewhere in this topic I suggested it be moved and increased to 90,000 seater or so. I still think it should be moved. But I don’t think it will happen. The one good thing it has going for it is its location in relation to the DART station. I do believe there are NIMBYs galore around here (I work down the road from it). I don’t believe that is a foolish claim. You’d be well advised to stop your heart bleeding there, might be painful in the long run.

I merely said that if you weren’t joking you were an idiot for buying a house “a few years ago” without noticing the stadium and knowing it is to redeveloped – pretty straightforward really.. Either way, you’d be living in ballsbridge so stop complaining. sorry – I should have realised you were joking when you said it only cost 1 million. You made no mention of the size of the stadium – that was me. Perhaps there isn’t a need for 2 87,000 seater stadia but I see little point in building a stadium that’s effectively smaller than the one that’s there now

sorry – by smaller I mean that – and Murrayfield is a good example – when you redevelop a ground with terraces you need a 20-40% increase in capacity to generate the same atmosphere

@phatman wrote:

Not to be too pedantic, but wouldn’t being European Capital of Culture constitute being a capital of culture?
And even though the organisational skills of the committee left a bit to be desired, the place really is steeped in culture and fully deserved the acolade.

The purpose of the title European Capital of Culture (ECC) is meant to highlight existing cultural excellence and to encourage cities to develop and innovate in the cultural field. It is meant to be an opportunity to show that culture is central to the life of a city, and demonstrate its contribution to regeneration, social inclusion, education and business.

A submission for consideration for the ECC shall specify how the nominated city intends:

•to highlight artistic movements and styles shared by Europeans which it has inspired or to which it has made a significant contribution,
•to promote events involving people active in culture from other cities in Member States and leading to lasting cultural cooperation, and to foster their movement within the European Union,
•to support and develop creative work, which is an essential element in any cultural policy,
•to ensure the mobilisation and participation of large sections of the population and, as a consequence, the social impact of the action and its continuity beyond the year of the events,
•to encourage the reception of citizens of the Union and the widest possible dissemination of the various events by employing all forms of multimedia,
•to promote dialogue between European cultures and those from other parts of the world and, in that spirit, to optimise the opening up to, and understanding of others, which are fundamental cultural values,
•to exploit the historic heritage, urban architecture and quality of life in the city.

You can judge for yourself how Cork did on the above ( I can’t comment as I was out of the country that year)

I would tend to agree with Praxiteles – The honour is a little watered down now as the host country is chosen in advance ie Ireland had to host it in 2005. Dublin hosted it in 1991 and, as we all know, something that requires a great deal of effort for little return is not something we tend to rush to repeat. So that left Cork, Limerick, Galway, etc. So you might be forgiven for looking at it as a poisoned chalice – culture by default if you like

@malec wrote:

Hopefully this’ll get the thread back on track 🙂

I’ve taken a few more pics of the juries development, that glass part on the front is starting to look pretty good I think.

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I was in Cork 2 days ago and I had the chance to get a good look at this as I was walking to UCC. I think it looks very well – the glass lift shaft defines the corner and what I didn’t realise is that the vertical glazing to the bedrooms is actually set in a bay window format so the facade is much more modelled than I had previously thought from the photos. I managed to grab a yellow coat who was working on the new bridge (dodgy stone by the way). Apparently the protruding piece at ground floor on the photo is the bar and the large glazed area to the end (opposite an abandoned petrol station) in the restaurant. Both the bar and the restaurant open out onto a terrace area that wraps around the front and side on the river bank which, judging from the angle of the sun when I was there, will be nice in the summer evenings. You wouldn’t miss the entrance canopy either!

@THE_Chris wrote:

gah… whoever designed that needs lynching.

I don’t really have any strong opinion on the Jurys development but I have been doing a lot of trawling of Archiseek since joining up. I’ve decided now that, when anyone – on any thread – posts a subjective response, I’m going to ask why, if only to see if they actually have any design nouse or are just a big gob.

So……why?

@kesey wrote:

Happily, I think that the picture of the new Jurys does the building an injustice. The bricks and mortar look considerably better than the photo which gives the edifice a very fragile and el cheapo look.

FYI they’re open jointed terracotta tiles on a Techrete panel