Lansdowne Road Stadium

Woo hoo! ……is that all only 30 appeals.

I will gladly swap my home in Ballyfermot with anyone living in the Lansdowne Road area if they feel rather peeved about the new stadium proposal.

It has been announced that the new stadium will hold a major soccer match.The UEFA Cup final will be held in Dublin in 2010. A good incentive too, to get the thing built all the more quicker.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0928/lansdowne.html?rss

@paul h wrote:

Thats fantastic news with the uefa cup final

I think its worth pointing out that UEFA chief exec Lars- Christer Olssen said that it would
probably be only the uefa cup final as opposed to the (more prestigious and financially rewarding) champions
leauge final due to the 50 000 capacity of the new stadium.

Exactly, it should be fandabadozy when our European brothers and sisters descend on our Fair City to see the match. After the Special olympics and the Ryder Cup, I believe that our country can host any sport competition given it. The decision also helps our cause for a Celtic Euro 2012 bid with our Scottish friends and allies and the Rugby World Cup in the middle of the next decade, and, I like to think, the 2020 World Cup.(I live in hope)

i was on the dart past lansdowne today and i cant believe thats our national stadium one of the stands only looks about 3 storeys high, there should be someway for the goverment to bypass certain planning laws for things like this they do it often enough with the roads and as for people opposing this redevelopment do they have some love of ugly imposing concrete dumps?despite being bigger the new stadium might actually be less imposing on them,definatly less depressing!

@Bren88 wrote:

Maybe a joint european champ with scotland.
Maybe even a small part in the world cup, together with mayve two countries of the UK.
But what other sporting event could we even think od outside of football???
We had the Ryder cup, as we deserved it too as the K club is a top course. But what other international events could we cater for. Golf, a shared football championship.
Can you think of anything else we could hope to hold, outside of Darts or Poker.

Blow Football perhaps!
I don’t think the Scots will be in any rush to get into bed with the Irish for any future sporting bids after the last debacle!

@The Denouncer wrote:

I heard the ‘debacle’ at the time wasn’t solely due to the lack of stadia in Ireland, but problems in Scotland aswell.

It’s very possible that that was the case, particularly as far as UEFA were concerned. As far as I recall, the joint bid proposed the use of 3 stadia in Glasgow (Celtic, Rangers and Hampden), 2 in Edinburgh, 2 in Dublin and a possible other stadium in, I think, Dundee. So the tournament would have been taking place in just four cities.

The winning bid, Switzerland and Austria, has the tournament taking place in 8 cities (4 in each country). The nordic bid would, as far as I remember, have had a similar arrangement (give or take, two cities in each of the four countries involved).

From a security aspect, the Swiss/Austrian deal may be a much easier arrangement to handle, and there are also matters relating to overuse of particular pitches to be considered. For example, it probably wouldn’t have been possible to police two matches in Glasgow on the same day, so this means that pitches in the other cities would have to be used. As there were so few other cities involved, those pitches would probably be used more frequently than would be common in other tournaments.

In addition, the European Championship is generally considered to be a more difficult competition to progress in than the World Cup,, as there are almost no no-hopers present. A much higher percentage of the teams present are capable of actually winning the competition than would be the case at the World Cup. As a result, there are more likely to be more situations (on a percentage basis) where the teams that progress from the group phase are in doubt until the last minute of their last group matches (which take place simultaneously).

As an illustration, England score a last minute goal against Ireland in Croke Park to go to the quarter finals, at Ireland’s expense, while at the same time (in the same group) Serbia hold out for a 0-0 draw at Lansdowne Road to put Croatia out of the tournament.

How do you police the city after that?

Lansdowne Road redevelopment hearing to begin

11 December 2006 09:44
A hearing by An Bord Pleanála on the proposed redevelopment of the Lansdowne Road stadium will begin today.

Local residents have objected to the plan for the erection of a new stadium at a cost of more than €300m.

The oral hearing gets under way at the Gresham Hotel in central Dublin at 10am and is expected to run for a week.

The redevelopment plan submitted by the soccer and rugby representative bodies would create a 50,000 all-seater stadium.

Currently, Irish international soccer games have a capacity of 36,000.

While both the FAI and IRFU will contribute to the financing, nearly €200m is to come from the Government.

While the plan was passed by Dublin City Council, this decision has now been appealed to An Bord Pleanála.

Among concerns are the stadium height, the demolition of a house on Shelbourne Road, flooding consequences and loss of part of the Dodder walkway.

Final nail in the Bertie Bowl?

the thing about the height is a bit misleading. The reason it’s so high is because the north stand is so low, as low as it is now, to accomodate residents.
Parking was a major talking point today (I was there, but I ain’t sayin why) as was flooding, even though the hearing began with a letter from the OPW stating that flooding would not occur. The development of conferencing and restaurant non-event day facilities was a major issue as is the lack of a limit on the number of events… fair enough i reckon. The demolition of no. 70 Shelbourne road is a vaild objection, as I’m sure many archiseekers will agree. There are a number of spurious objections, my favourite was one bloke who said it should be in Abbotstown, where there’s no traffic problem (yeh, the same abbotstown on the M50)

Most of the appeals were very well constructed and delivered very well. It will be granted imo but the conditions will be way more far-reaching, as far as maybe reducing capacity, height, a curb on certain uses and a definite limit on the number of events.

btw George Redmond attended most of todays proceedings. Must have been lookin for tickets, or breakin into the old council offices across the road

@The Denouncer wrote:

“When we moved into our €1,000,000 house a few years ago we failed to notice the dilapidated stadium in the vicinity. Now it is being refurbished I say NOT IN MY BACK YARD!”

obviously you’re joking. If you’re not, more fool you and my heart bleeds for you

The demolition the protected structure is regrettable, even more so if the stadium becomes some sort of watered down play space. Let’s face it, the new stadium is shoehorned in there and it’s too small as it is. If it doesn’t remain at it’s (pathetic) current capicity, it has to go elsewhere.

Totally disagree there is no requirement for two 87,000 plus seat stadiums in Dublin; Irish rugby is on a high right now and still only two games produce annual capacity crunches namely 2 of the six nations and Croke Park can be used for the French or England games.

The FAI are in a tailspin and beyond a few attractive games a year capacity beyond 56,000 is unecessary and the GAA being business people know how to lever a decent premium.

Lets face it the national sports are Gaelic football and Hurling anf Croke Park is HQ where the key events are to be held; for other events such as FAI and Ireland v Italy or Munster v Leinster 56,000 is ample capacity but critically all events are held in the City Centre where the City fully benefits from the tourist spend.

Everytime I think of the Bertie Bowl I think of that ridiculous 1990’s proposal to have Joe Kinnear’s Wimbledon build a stadium in Clondalkin and have the fans bused in for UK Premiership matches via the M50 on Day trips. Wimbledon got their dream they moved to Milton Keynes and were renamed the MK Dons.