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  • in reply to: Carlton Cinema Development #712160
    bal73
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    @thebig C wrote:

    Really really dreadful! I could go into more detail regarding its awfulness but I just can’t be bothered.

    This whole process whereby developers prevaricate and Planning Authorities impose spurious “visual” conditions remind me of two previous blights on Dublins built fabric.

    Firstly, The ILAC centre. The developers swept away a charming warren of streets only to get cold feet with the economy wobbling in the late 1970s. Their original urban scaled plans were dropped and we ended up with a single storey outer suburban strip mall plonked beside our capitals main street.

    Secondly, after permitting and indeed participating in the wanton destruction of Georgian Dublin, the council insisted that all new buildings be in “Georgian style” pastiche crap! Short of a complete reconstruction a la what happened in Europe post WWII, they could have made the best of a bad situation and encouraged architects to experiment with modern architecture. But instead, architects were straight-jacketed to build only in redbrick, with uniform windows.

    Both of these examples seem apt with the Carlton site. Nice to see we have learned from history!!

    C

    The new proposal includes for streets namely Moore Lane and most of Henry Place being completely demolished and rebuilt in paving with ultraviolet light strips!! histrical street pattern retained as per request of ABP? DCC and ABP have destroyed enough of Dublin the public should see the demolition plan with this submission, 90% of the block is being demolished

    in reply to: Carlton Cinema Development #712133
    bal73
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    @StephenC wrote:

    Yes I had heard they were pretty poor. They seem to be overly constrained by the ACA.

    I have seen the latest plans and the differences are the garden in the sky is gone, the entrance onto O Connell Street is narrower and some building facades kept on Moore Street but they still have four stories of a car park under the National Monument and only rebuilding the streets, not keeping the historical streets. really disappointing!! Chartered Lands have missed their last opportunity here.

    in reply to: Carlton Cinema Development #712115
    bal73
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    I am amazed that so many people comment on a project and yet so few consider the historical significance of parts of this site, thankfully ABP did!! Has this nation forgotten the people that fought and died on these very streets for our country. 16 Moore Street is critical to the whole project and for those of you that didn’t know it is a National Monument.

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