The Spike
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- January 6, 2003 at 4:34 pm #721638
Trich1
ParticipantOops that link doesn’t work for some reason…..try this one: http://www.dublincity.ie/traffic/camera/OConnell_Street_Parnell_Street.htm
January 7, 2003 at 1:10 am #721639Anonymous
Inactiveyep, that one is from dublin city council’s traffic website at:
[url=http://]www.dublincity.ie/traffic/traff.htm[/url]
It’s also visible from another webcam run by camvista (the best webcam of dublin) most of you are probably familiar with it already, it runs through several shots every minute & the spike is visible in one of them …
Wrote and asked them to divert the camera towards the spike or to ask if they would consider setting up a temporary cam to cover it (they do a lot of that kind of thing) but no reply … anyway here’s the link[url=http://]www.camvista.com/ireland/dublin/liffey.php3[/url]
okay doesn’t look like they’re working so just type them in manually & you’ll get there …
:confused:January 7, 2003 at 8:56 am #721640PaulC
ParticipantJanuary 7, 2003 at 9:49 am #721641Niall
ParticipantOn a rather bizzare note if you look at the camera from the other end, i.e. O’Connnell bridge is the thing aligned properly or is the traffic Island the one out of place?
Just a thought, here is the link……
January 7, 2003 at 1:01 pm #721642fjp
Participantyou want bizarre??? slight boredom on my part presents the strangest view yet:
January 7, 2003 at 4:18 pm #721643CiaranO
Participantis that it with the third section up now?? seems a lot higher than last night!
C.
January 7, 2003 at 4:59 pm #721644fjp
Participantum – that was me playing with photoshop….
January 7, 2003 at 5:43 pm #721645GregF
ParticipantHee hee ……good one………
Wow, that’s high ain’t it ……..god we’ll all get vertigo and nose bleeds at the height of the thing as it goes up and up.
I was on the bus into work this morning and heard a couple, aka a South African chap and a Danish girl, talk very aloud about me native city saying that all the buildings were very low. They noted that stylish new tall glass building in Blanchardstown as we passed it and then commented jokingly on the Mickey Mouse pastiche 3 storey appartments in the vicinity. It was cringe inducing to think that we are generally a land of low aspiration midgets.
Up the Spike and up and up with it too.January 8, 2003 at 3:29 am #721646CiaranO
Participanthaha well done FJP! Now that I look closer its not a bad job with the oul photoshop! BUt i should have known! I almost went up to O Connell street tonight too! Imagine my surprise! LOL
GregF,
you really do suffer from quite an inferiority complex dont you. I wrote a rather long response to one of your texts last night (re: still a provincial british city) and only thanx to the great enigma that this site is, it was erased. Not willing to waste anymore of my time, I think I will from here on ignore your rather self-depreciating toned posts, that are of the bimboesque quality that size really matters, and being of a general opinion that if it’s Irish it must be bad, or at best worthy of some condemnation. Of course Denmark, with its great taxes, and SOuth Africa with its friendly society would be much greater places to live in, of only for their 20+ storey buildings.
Oh woe is thee!C.
January 8, 2003 at 8:33 am #721647Paul Clerkin
KeymasterOriginally posted by CiaranO
I wrote a rather long response to one of your texts last night (re: still a provincial british city) and only thanx to the great enigma that this site is, it was erased.I would just like to point out that we didn’t erase anything.
January 8, 2003 at 8:50 am #721648GregF
ParticipantKeep living in your little land of insignificance Ciaran O………and sure ‘everything will be grand’ won’t it.
‘Ye’ll never improve yourself if ye cannot first critisize yourself’…..now who said that, David Brent ye say?…….Buddha?……..or was it Roy Keane?……but I suppose people have different levels of standards and standards of levels.
Sorry for offending your patriotic sensibilities but it’s such sensibilities that has kept dear old Ireland backward for years Ciaran …..and it can be seen in the standard of architecture which is around you today, but that’s if you open your eyes. It is plain as the nose on your face.
‘Architecture is an outward reflection of a society, indeed it is a reflection of civilization itself’…..I think Plato said that or was it John Fitzgerald.A Spire, A Spire, Aspire.
Profound or Profane!
January 8, 2003 at 1:51 pm #721649CiaranO
ParticipantOriginally posted by Paul Clerkin
I would just like to point out that we didn’t erase anything.
no i accept that Paul, cheers I meant rather that it sometimes deosnt run smoothly this site, and having posted it, I got a duff page, and when i went back to the page on which i had typed it originally it was gone, and i could nto be bothered to repeat it!
GregF
Of course my world is insignificant. It is not the one you pervade. The one of ‘sure it’s all shite isn’t it’. the post colonial mind that once independence has been achieved tries to gain the upper hand by being like the previous oppressors. Your opinions that everyone in Dublin is just happy with everything no matter how bad it is may not be compleytely off the wall, but why continuously turn to the childish west brit rhetoric that its ‘cos were little old Ireland’. IF, and its a big IF, this is the case, surely YOU, are intent on changing things through your arhcitectural nous (are you an architect) or are you happy to have petty arguments online?
I am neither an architet nor an expert in urbn planning, but I do have an appreciation of good architecture and public buildings.
You seem to think that a simple improvement to Dublins architectural inadequacies would be some high-rise buildings. Of course, there have been thousands of minds that have designed skyscrapers for Dublin, but they obviously came to the wise conclusion that, correctly it would be frankly ridiculous to have one or two buildings over 150m in Dublin, with its low skyline. Perhaps you know better.
So architecture is an outward reflection of a society, indeed it is a reflection of civilization itself’
Well lets not start a ‘quotes’ battle as Im sure you understand I could find a quote to prove that the world is indeed flat.I will say however that there is already some great architecture in Ireland, although a lot of it is pre-1922 so I suppose you wouldnt count that would you. Is James Gandon not British enough for you either?
Self-criticism is always necessary of course, but poisonous self-loathing is not really the way to do it.
C.
January 8, 2003 at 4:01 pm #721650-Donnacha-
ParticipantOK, you two, take it outside. Can’t we all just get along?
January 8, 2003 at 5:42 pm #721651GregF
ParticipantO Ciaran……calm time will ye, jesus…..I think you’ve missed the point of what I overall imply….and thanks for the sarky ‘inferiority complex’ jibe too…. but maybe it is a reflection of the Irish nation itself.
I never used the term ‘West Brit’, but you yourself did and on several occasions. (Is that perhaps a reflection of a deep down inner feeling that you maintain. We are after all however a lot more British here in Ireland than we would like to admit as the British are far more European than they’d like to admit. History has dictated this of which we refuse to admit.)
I simply implied that some folk here are more entranced by the ongoings of the banalities of cross channel soaps and sporting events rather than taking an interest in their own built environment, yet they feel they have a right to critisize what in the long run may be better for their native city. (It is a free country too, people can do what they like, and why not)
Regarding the height and scale thing …..well if you look at the history of architecture it was always a competiveness that has produced great architecture, has’nt it………a competiveness and an urge to build bigger, build better, build more flamboyant…etc….etc….and it’s from this that we have a great history of great architecture to look upon today. From the times of the Egyptians, the Romans, The Renaissance, The Gothic, The Baroque, the 20th Century; whether it be Pyramids, Temples, Cathedrals Castles, Manor Houses, Parliaments, Social Housing for the masses……Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and so on …. there has always been a want to build better for the betterment of humanity…….but that is a bit lacking in the imagination of the Irish general public at times ……hence our middle of the road complacent surroundings, acres of houses and the urban sprawl, bad transport etc …etc…..etc….that we have in Ireland today…..Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Coming from an agrarian background too we don’t really have a great knack of urban living like our fellow Europeans…..do we.
It is what undercurrent ideology (what ever that maybe) that’s behind a society that produces the best of a society………hence at the end of the day some societies have a better quality of life and better outward trappings that go with it…(and that’s what matters….is’nt it)
You do realize that don’t you …………..but jesus…..why bother!January 8, 2003 at 6:05 pm #721652fjp
Participanton a completely seperate point:
does anyone know when the next section is going up?
(surely someone’s got good inside info on schedule)fjp
January 10, 2003 at 12:05 pm #721653ew
ParticipantIs there a section going up now?
http://193.120.149.58/camera06.jpgJanuary 10, 2003 at 12:12 pm #721654Niall
ParticipantThis is all turning into a bore…
Can just see it now.. Tour guide to tourists..
Yeah, got permission in 1998 by the Council… suppossed to go up for the Millennium…High Court appeal. Minister gave permission for it after reading EIS in December 2000!!!!!!!!!!!
First started construction in 2002. Finally went up in 2004!I can see them all rolling around laughing… better still a look of disbelief on their faces…
Can anything be done on time in this country? The third piece has been sitting there for 3 weeks!!!!!!! What are they doing standing around staring at it?
January 10, 2003 at 12:27 pm #721655urbanisto
ParticipantAdverse weather conditions?
Extended public sector Christmas holidays?
Alarm clock didnt go off?
Broke a nail?January 10, 2003 at 3:10 pm #721656-Donnacha-
ParticipantGive ’em a break. They’ve only been at it a few weeks and in fairness it looks really tricky and the weather has been crap.
January 10, 2003 at 3:23 pm #721657lostcarpark
ParticipantTrue, I imagine it’s not the sort of thing you want to do in high winds.
James
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