The Bertie bowl revisited
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the situation has changed since other sports in Croke Park got the go ahead … no more than the landsdowne proposal is required in Dublin at this stage, I know that croker is at this stage temporary while landsdowne is being developed but i reckon the rule change will be extended (for corke park anyway)
to have even one 80,000 seater stadium in a country of this size is quite surprising.
this obsession with the european cup makes no sense to me; from a tourism point of view one off events only make sense if they have a branding role; what good will come of trying to brand ireland as a soccer destination, these people aren’t going to come back to see bohemians v’s whatever in dalymount.
as a disclaimer i should say that i find soccer really fucking boring because it doesn’t involve either dogs, horses or people running around an oval track.
Co-Bid with Scotland would be really tasty
yes a co-bid for a large sporting occasion would be great. However with respect to the olympics or the world cup it would be some decades away , since both were just recently held in europe.
Also the GAA would have to be convinced to allow croke park to be redevelopped , for the olympics say .
But such thoughts are not impossible, and it would indeed be a great honour.
Croke park doesnt look 1/2 finished to be honest. The should move the railway track and complete the stadium.
no it is just right, the open side lets the sun in wonderfully and during concerts the setting sun provides a nice background . as a horseshoe it is fantastic, i think.
I tend to agree that croke park looks a bit unfinished, one side of hill16 slopes down drastically towards the hogan stand, its a pity really. It would look absolutely amazing if the bowl was completed, the capacity would be around 90,000 then i think, they could also maintain a standing terrace on the lower tier with the upper tiers reserved for seating, this is whats done in many german stadia such as the westfalenstadion in dortmund,the waldstadion in frankfurt and the allianz arena in munich, all with great success. Its unlikely that we’ll see the hill 16 end “completed” in the near future especially with the proximity of the railway line but also because the GAA have only just spent €20 million on the new terrace.
Whats the current situation regarding the croke park floodlights?, i know they got planning permission, i presume this has been challenged by the local residents?
Also does anyone else think the new landsdowne road has been ruined somewhat with that single tiered section, like croke park its going to look somewhat imbalanced!
It looks a bit OTT allright and the single tiered section looks unfinished ah la Croke Park. I am amazed at the proposed capacity of only 50,000 when The Milenium stadium in Cardiff holds 75,000 and has a retractable roof.Demand for rugby & soccer tickets is always high in sports mad (viewing) Ireland.
Yes but to spend €1bn on a single project would deprive the rest of the Country for the sake of possibly 2 rugby and 4 soccer internationals a year, if more money is to be spent spend it in Cork, Limerick and Galway. With Galway in particular having no stadium worthy of its population. GAA will always be happiest at home Croke Park is more than a stadium it is a very powerful symbol to a large group of people.
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I It would look absolutely amazing if the bowl was completed, the capacity would be around 90,000 then i think, they could also maintain a standing terrace on the lower tier with the upper tiers reserved for seating, this is whats done in many german stadia such as the westfalenstadion in dortmund,the waldstadion in frankfurt and the allianz arena in munich, all with great success.
Also does anyone else think the new landsdowne road has been ruined somewhat with that single tiered section, like croke park its going to look somewhat imbalanced!
Yes and Yes. They should move the railway line, complete Hill 16 properly and then put a seated tier above it. Once they have that done they can add a roof.
Down one end of landsdowne road is going to be incredibly quite. It should have a second tier by right.
Should the Hill16 end be finished to raise the capacity to 90,000 at an extremely large cost to make the stadium look ‘more balanced’.
Is it not satisfactory to have a stadium with a finished capacity of 82,500. This is more than sufficient for this country, it’s a stadium not a white elephant.
To move the rail line would involve CPO of people’s back gardens on the adjoining roads by Iarnrod Eireann and govt, (to assist the expansion of the stadium to 90k?), and potential overshadowing of houses in the viscinity which I am sure will be very learned of the planning process post Lansdowne Road episode that is now looming.
Croker looks great and its big enough for Gaelic Games. There are very few stadiums larger in all of Europe for conventional field sports. Really to pay for such an expansion would require significant public expensiture which, in my opinion, would be better spent on upgrading Thomond Park and Semple Stadium. 😮Totally agree it is the World’s greatest Horse Shoe shaped Stadium and all phases opened on time and at or close to budget
Well done the GAA
I was at the Dubs game on Saturday and whilst admiring the stadium thought that it has to be one the of best assets the country’s got in recent years. The stadium is so spacious and roomy too and the view of the pitch is excellent. Pity that the railway line intrudes at te Hill 16 end with the new Nally stand and flag poles that are plonked here looking kinda awkward. But Croker looks great overall and looks even better when there’a full house and the Hill and the Stands are packed to the rafters.
BTW, the largest attendance for a field sport at a ground in Europe this year was not in Germany during the World Cup finals, nor was it the Heineken Cup final at Cardiff, (despite that the jubillant Munster fans would have filled the stadium 3 time overs), nor was it English or Scottish FA Cup finals, but Croker of course, when the Dubs played Offaly for the Leinster title and the attendance was over 80,000. Not bad for a so called amateur sport either. It will be great when the Irish Soccer and Rugby teams play there next year.
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