The Bertie bowl revisited
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Saw very serious well advanced plans on last night’s UTV news for a Northern Ireland type National Stadium. It will have a retractable roof and cater for 40,000. Its been strategically planned to locate in Newry so as to cater for a Southern audience (o lucky us !!) as well, with pop concerts, Rugby Internationals etc.
But the best part of the story is that half of the land on the proposed site belongs to the guardians of our National Games the GAA. It will also be supported by local business and the British Lottery so therefore will cater for all sports. So as its been planned up North like the Odyessey Arena / Intetactive Science Centre, Leisure Centres, Waterfront Hall, Dundonald Ice Rink etc…. it will certainly happen and on time……….come back UEFA ………and visit Newry.
i read today in the irish times that there are several consortiums interested in a national stadium project. looks like a 40,000-50,000 seater. abbottstown looks like the site of choice but options are being looked at apparently.
shame about eircom park and i agree with idea of a redeveloped lansdowne. wishful thinking but the eircom park design would be cool if it could be used on the irishtown site. a 65 – 75,000 lansdowne rd is also a pipe dream but would be great to see.
seem to recall a phoenix park idea was also being looked into which would be perfect if the project could incorporate the rail link under the park. i guess we will have to wait and see…Much interest has been expressed by the private sector for a national stadium, but whether this is real depends on how much stealth, non-cash, government support will be available. How the tender is framed will be equally important. No one seems to favor Abbotstown so there is hope for better solutions if the finances can be sorted. A big if.
If private investors are to part with their hard earned money….ahem!…. every possible location will be considered no doubt so as the best returns will be acheived. They will not build the stadium in an isolated field……..however if that location is to be an epi-centre or hub for sporting activity… aka Sports Campus Ireland, well then Abbotstown will be strongly considered.
Remember a city centre location may meet opposition from the super sensitive locals.
(I remember seeing on the news recently opposition to Croke Park’s activities from the locals and those that spoke out were not Dubs but had country accents……This is a city not the countryside)To think that 23 private developers applied ……what enthusiasm…..maybe we could get a couple of stadia out of them as well as the redevelpment of Landsdowne Road and the National Conference Centre…..after all it’s how they built America.
Something will emerge from all of this but all too late for the bewildered Scots as UEFA will make there decision by Dec’ 7th. No doubt they already have put this issue to bed and and I don’t expect a shock announcement from UEFA as there is no possibility of contracts (never mind drawings) even been signed drawn up 5 weeks from now…it would still be only one likely Irish venue.
The article in today’s Times “October 25 2002 : City centre stadium is favoured in Dunloe submission” sounds really interesting… is there any chance that somebody could email this exile the article ?!? Would be greatly appreciated…
The Bertie Bowl will then be probably built……hurray, says I….we are not that backward then!
…….and we said YES to Nice too…….things are looking up ……..there is a dog…………I mean god.Perhaps we should find another name for the stadium. Bertie wants it sure enough, but his tax payers won’t be layin cash on the table. How about Eircom Park? No, that’s been done before. Let’s put the thinking caps on. Nominations are hereby declared open.
According to teh Indo this morning JP McManus has rescinded his donation as its not a state stadium anymore and not a world class proposal.
i see that 23 proposals for a stadium have been submitted to the govt. seems like abbottstown is the only site being considered but i guess we will have to wait and see.wonder what will be the result of all this and hopefully we will end up with a second world class stadium.
maybe the govt will see the light and float a metro competition to the private sector….wishful thinking!!!Went to the aquatic centre – aka. Lansowne Road on Saturday, the cries of shut the stadium roof were heard – nice thought!!!
It has been claimed that it will cost over Euro100m to refurbish Lansdowne Road stadium to help Ireland’s bid to host European soccer championships in 2008.
The Minister for Arts, Sport, and Tourism John O’Donoghue made the point during a Dail debate while talking about the level of interest that private companies have expressed in building a national stadium.Now that Landsdowne Road has been green lit how does the forum feel that Berties Bowl would have compared to the new Landsdowne road?
Landsdowne has public transport access, great pubs, good atmosphere.
50K seater stadium makes sense as Dublin already has an 80K plus stadium.Bertie Bowl was doomed tbg.
Im disapointed. We could have done with a proper stadium in Dublin. I just hope the government will now press ahead and build a 30,000 seater stadium in Cork and Galway for soccer. With 4 stadia and one in the north maybe we could host the European Championships
We have a proper stadium in Dublin in Croke Park and a proper summer game in the form of Hurling to go with it when the City comes to life with hoardes from the regions descending and supporting thousands of jobs in the hospitiality industry.
Lets be honest about it everyone wants to see Barcelona as an away game as it is a fabulous City; who rushes off to buy tickets for Dortmund or Napoli?
The convenience of a boutique hotel and locals like Donneheys or Searsons cannot be replaced by the IBIS and the Red Cow and West in an industrial estate after the match.
@Maskhadov wrote:
Im disapointed. We could have done with a proper stadium in Dublin. I just hope the government will now press ahead and build a 30,000 seater stadium in Cork and Galway for soccer. With 4 stadia and one in the north maybe we could host the European Championships
maskhadov we are a small country. aside from an ego boost we could never afford to host a large scale sporting event. The stadiums that we would have to build to be idle for years following their completion.
We could and should try to host a large scale event with scotland at some stage (olypimcs , world cup, the list is endless. )
i think croke park a proper stadium.
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