Ten Developments that shook Dublin
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August 10, 2004 at 8:29 pm #707264
J. Seerski
ParticipantTaking on a TV theme, what would a programme about Dublin in the 20th Century name as 10 developments that forever shaped Dubin?
Liberty Hall
Ballymun
Griffith Avenue
IFSC
Nass Road
M50
The Spike
ILAC Centre
Smithfield
Tenement DemolitionAS you can see, not all developments were good, though there impact on the city has certainly being profound. The M50 as an example, opened up the county and surrounds of Dublin to suburbanization. Ballymun had the effect of making high-rise public housing unattractive to Dubliners.
Any other ideas?
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August 10, 2004 at 9:11 pm #745268
GrahamH
ParticipantDublin-Kinstown Railway
Loop Line
Royal Hospital
Parliament Building
ESB Hq – at the time at least.
Busaras – albeits impact short-lived.
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August 10, 2004 at 9:37 pm #745269
Anonymous
ParticipantThe Central Bank inso much as ensured the financial district stayed around Anglesea St until the early 90’s
The dandelion market and resulting Stephens Green Shopping Centre both firstly as a sub culture ie barclay Dunnes william Tell, Bruxelles etc, then later the Centre as it extended the prime retail zone right to the top of Grafton St.
Powerscourt town house restoration/conversion take a bow mr Power
The Morrison Hotel or possibly the Clarence hotel restoration or both combined they both did loads for temple bar.
O’Connell Bridge house
Trinity Court in Pearse St, Dublins first methadone clinic, back as far as Tara St dart station still suffers greatly. Even early 90’s there were a number of retail choices on this stretch of Pearse St now everything is locked or has a bouncer
Georges Quay plaza as it has sparked the south inner docklands
The first 2nd generation office block in Blackrock, we can thank that one for Sandyford etc.
The U2 Tower its not built but is a catalyst none the less.
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August 11, 2004 at 10:05 am #745270
Anonymous
InactiveThe Inner Relief Road – brought dual carriage carnage to the city centre.
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August 11, 2004 at 10:56 am #745271
d_d_dallas
ParticipantThe METRO if it ever actually happens.
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August 11, 2004 at 3:08 pm #745272
Morlan
ParticipantThe 24-hour Spar on Talbot Street to be honest.
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August 11, 2004 at 3:30 pm #745273
Craig Davis
Participant– the road-widening programme & associated mass evictions
– Dublin new towns, including Tallaght & Blanchardstown; loosely based on the Myles Wright 1966 masterplan
– 1916 Rising
– the Age of Flight; Dublin Airport
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August 11, 2004 at 5:02 pm #745274
GregF
ParticipantThe County Hall down in Cork.
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August 12, 2004 at 12:25 am #745275
Irishtown
ParticipantLiberty Hall – first real highrise in Dublin (Hawkins House doesn’t count and if it did, its only 3 years older) and Liberty Hall still remains one of the tallest.
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August 12, 2004 at 9:20 am #745276
Andrew Duffy
ParticipantI’d say O’Connell Bridge House was the development that paved the way for Liberty Hall and Hawkins House and the subsequent floor area/plot ratio limit that meant Dublin never got any highrises of good or bad quality. I suspect most would have been bad, however.
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August 12, 2004 at 11:33 am #745277
GregF
ParticipantThe road widening schemes would have to be one of the major impacts made on the city as Craig Davis and Zap said….Whole streets were demolished and it took years for them to be rebuilt. This ruined many fine old streets that Dublin had and saw the loss of many familar landmarks. The evidence of such can still be seen today with the corners of many streets brutally lopped off as well as the makings of dual carriageways around.
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August 12, 2004 at 5:40 pm #745278
Punchbowl
ParticipantWithout a doubt the anihalation of whole streetscapes has been detremental in the planning and developing ‘ Mindset ‘ of Dublin. As they did, removing whole sides of streets rendered the opposite side ( Generally left untouched ) redundant. The street loses it’s original shape and purpose and ultimately, cos’ residents on the surviving side might find staring at the donnelly centre or wide swatchs of empty rubbleised space none to pleasent to greeted with when pulling the curtains in the morning, also becomes depressed and void and eventually allowed slip into dereliction. Every road widening scheme of this nature shows these symptoms.
How many City crossroads still maintain the original four corners?
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August 12, 2004 at 11:02 pm #745279
Irishtown
ParticipantOriginally posted by Andrew Duffy
I’d say O’Connell Bridge House was the development that paved the way for Liberty Hall and Hawkins House and the subsequent floor area/plot ratio limit that meant Dublin never got any highrises of good or bad quality. I suspect most would have been bad, however.Hawkins House was built in 1962. Liberty Hall & O’Connell Bridge House were both built in 1965, although I don’t know when in 1965 each was.
And this next bit is a little off topic, but…
I just have to say, since its right next to Bridge House, The O’Connell Bridge Tower is simply one of my favourite buildings on earth.
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August 12, 2004 at 11:14 pm #745280
Anonymous
ParticipantI think O’Connell Bridge house was built first, I lent my Destruction of Dublin out recently so I can’t check. But I think remember seeing a picture of O’Connell Bridge House completed and scaffolding up on Hawkins House.
Re: Tower House it is one of the best pieces of urban architecture (Vs Govt budget not important) in Dublin, You are not alone in your appreciation of it, John Ronan bought it a few years ago, and converted its upper floors into Apartments
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August 13, 2004 at 12:47 am #745281
Irishtown
ParticipantOh man, when I move to Dublin- I have to live there!!
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August 13, 2004 at 12:28 pm #745282
Richards
ParticipantHere are the buildings/areas of Dublin that I consider changed Dublin
Corporation Housing schemes of the 1930’s (i.e Crumlin, Cabra)
Temple Bar
Archers Garage (and its demolition)
Ex Bord Na Mona Building on Baggot Street
The original Terminal in Dublin Airport (Collinstown)
The Square in Tallaght c.a. 1990
The DART in 1984
The pedestrianisation of Grafton Street incl. the paving
The Arts & Commerce Block in UCD Belfield
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August 13, 2004 at 12:48 pm #745283
Anonymous
InactiveOriginally posted by Punchbowl
How many City crossroads still maintain the original four corners?
Unfortunately, it seems, none too many.
From the sounds of it, the crossroads at St. Patrick St. and Dean St. was quite impressive, dubbed the four corners of hell due to the present of pubs at each of its corners – something I guess similar to Doyles Corner. What has replaced it though is truly terrible – an awful mis-shaped mess.
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November 22, 2006 at 3:55 pm #745284
Cathal Dunne
ParticipantWhat about the Grafton St. pedestrianisation?
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November 22, 2006 at 5:30 pm #745285
GregF
ParticipantThe Wide Streets Commision (Although I wasn’t there to witness it’s effects)
Stephens Green shopping centre debacle
Eccles Street demolition debacle
Gardiner Street demolition debacle
Parnell Street demolition and road widening scheme debacle
Patricks Street demolition and road widening scheme debacle
Fitzwilliam Street demolition debacle (already said)
Wood Quay debacle (already said) …….these are endless
The Central Bank
Port Tunnel
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November 22, 2006 at 5:58 pm #745286
Morlan
ParticipantI’m surprised nobody’s mentioned the Fr. Pat Noise Memorial.
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November 22, 2006 at 6:25 pm #745287
jimg
ParticipantThe ripping up of the extensive tram system in the 50’s.
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November 22, 2006 at 7:25 pm #745288
jdivision
ParticipantJ. Seerski wrote:Taking on a TV theme, what would a programme about Dublin in the 20th Century name as 10 developments that forever shaped Dubin?Liberty Hall
Ballymun
Griffith Avenue
IFSC
Naas Road
M50
The Spike
ILAC Centre
Smithfield
Tenement Demolition[QUOTE]
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January 15, 2007 at 11:41 am #745289
Anonymous
ParticipantAs opposed to concentrating on individual manefestations why not look at some causes of patterns.
1 The development of private housing associations in the 1920’s which spawned many of the inner suburbs such as Clontarf, Marino etc
2 Containerisation which altered land use patterns in the docklands
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