Spencer Dock plan wins centre race

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  • #763149
    notjim
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    sorry to drift off topic, but i always wondered if it was worth carry on to the east point business park, there are huge numbers working there and there’ll be huge numbers living along east wall road soon. carrying on the port is of course crazy, maybe a shuttle bus at the very most and a pretty small one at that.

    thanks god they chose spencer dock for the ncc, first its a nice building relative to the certainty that any conference centre would have a lot of blank wall, a, and b, the other site would have surely ended up in courts.

    #763150
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Well anything would be nice. It doesn’t seem to be serviced by any form of public transport.

    #763151
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    agreed. anything other than just a taxi would be handy.

    #763152
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    anyway… i like the stonework on that ncc in edinburgh. the roof isn’t too bad either.

    #763153
    Anonymous
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    Wasn’t a proposed NCC several years ago way taller? I can sort of remember a proposal that included some highrise buildings as an NCC. It was knocked on the head though from what I can remember.

    #763154
    Morlan
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    @paul lite wrote:

    Well anything would be nice. It doesn’t seem to be serviced by any form of public transport.

    I believe the Spencer Dock railway station is to be built right next to it. There’s also the proposed LUAS extension that would pass by it.

    #763155
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    It might take a while to walk from the station to the port. It just seems to be a good bit out of the way. I haven’t used the port in a good few years mind. To be honest it is easier to fly by plane these days.

    #763156
    Morlan
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    @paul lite wrote:

    It might take a while to walk from the station to the port. It just seems to be a good bit out of the way. I haven’t used the port in a good few years mind. To be honest it is easier to fly by plane these days.

    Sorry, thought you were talking about the conference centre.

    I guess it would make sense to continue the LUAS down to the port.. but one step at a time. IFSC businesses are already kicking up a fuss about LUAS running down Mayor St.

    #763157
    Anonymous
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    the glass on the ncc proposal looks nice. it makes the front look well. i am not sure about the wall facing the city though. i guess we will just have to wait and see what the end result looks like.

    #763158
    ihateawake
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    Could anyone tell me please where i can get some images , or post them if you like, of the kevin roche spencer dock plan?? I’d be really interested in seeing this predecessor to the idustrial crap that goin up now:(

    edit: just though id ask which is the final spencer dock plan? the one on the website or the one on treasurys website? if someone could indulge the less informed:P

    #763159
    Morlan
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    I can’t find the Kevin Roche plans, would be interested in seeing them too.

    just though id ask which is the final spencer dock plan? the one on the website or the one on treasurys website?

    Are you refering to the SpencerDock.ie site?

    This is the photomontage from TH:

    And from Spencerdock.ie

    Look the same to me. The former includes the NCC.

    #763160
    Pepsi
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    That top picture has a high rise that looks cylinder in shape. It is not shown in the bottom picture. It is east of the NCC. What is it?

    #763161
    Anonymous
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    @ihateawake wrote:

    Could anyone tell me please where i can get some images , or post them if you like, of the kevin roche spencer dock plan?? I’d be really interested in seeing this predecessor to the idustrial crap that goin up now:(

    There are photomontages and details about this building in Frank McDonald’s The Construction of Dublin (oops, put wrong name of book in originally, but edited)

    You can just about see it in the top one of the two images above, but it is hard to make out.

    #763162
    ihateawake
    Participant

    thanks phil, ill have a look, im surpirsed they are not available online:confused:

    yes, those are the images im talking about… there are a number of differences, asides the obvious exclusion of the ncc, like the cylindrical tower and the stepped roof buildings in the central block. the bottom picture(excluding the ncc) was on TH’s website before being replaced by the picture on top, so i assume the top is the more recent rendering, and perhaps more accurate?

    im doubting the quality of these buildings, how long will they hold up? will they look a wreck when they’re not shiny and new anymore? the office block near citibank looks awful now(citibank could use some paint aswell) and one last thing:D is mayor street intended to become a major population thoroughfare, retail, etc. or is it to remain in the clutches of the banking elite?

    #763163
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    You might also want to have a look at the Kevin Roche John Dinkaloo web-page:

    http://www.krjda.com/flash.html

    It should pop up, but if not, go to the ‘Theatre and Exhibition’ section of ‘projects’, and it is listed there. It just shows a computer generated image of the inside and outside.

    #763164
    ihateawake
    Participant

    thanks again phil, the buildings surrounding the conference centre by day give a good impression of the scale of the previous plans

    #763165
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    if you select current work from the projects menu & then select dublin national conference centre there’s a better image showing side elevation etc….

    #763166
    The Denouncer
    Participant

    These CGI mock-ups always looks great, lovely and clean! And not a raincloud in sight.

    #763167
    Frank Taylor
    Participant

    @ihateawake wrote:

    is mayor street intended to become a major population thoroughfare, retail, etc. or is it to remain in the clutches of the banking elite?

    The entry to Mayor Street from Busaras is strangely forbidding the first time you see it. you get the feeling you are entering private property. The street is very busy during the day and well worth checking out. It is intended to run the Luas along Mayor Street but the local banks would prefer a bus along the quays. The apartment dwellers along Mayor Street and the future residents of Spencer Dock will probably choose Mayor Streat as a route into town as it is more direct, pedestrian-friendly, commerical and less windswept than the quays.

    #763168
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I think that a lot of the business attitudes here are driven by the fact that all of the buildings on Georges Dock were built early to mid 1990’s and have huge parking facilities which have traditionally gridlocked in the evening peak. When luas is routed down here the tram will have priority and I am not too sure how so much traffic will be routed at peak times; however in the greater scheme of things the RPA have got this one right as this area is perfect for an on street tram system unlike the Cherrywood extension.

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