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  • #776189
    GrahamH
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    26/8/2010

    A recent flurry of improving works involving a number of properties around the city centre in recent weeks and months has served as a potent example of what can be achieved with a lick of paint – even if in some cases it has worked to questionable effect. The summer months really do seem to bring out the industrious spirit in people.

    One of the largest scaffolds erected in Dublin on an existing building in recent years dominated the centre of Dame Street for much of the summer.

    The building at the junction of Dame Street and South Great George’s Street got a much needed sprucing up after decades of neglect, as with countless historic properties in the city centre.

    The final stretch of a Wide Streets Commission terrace dating to the 1780s, adorned with Victorian stucco adornments, the Mercantile Hotel presented a grim aspect to Dame Street with a grubby white façade accented in black – typical of the 1970s.

    The transformation has been nothing short of a breath of fresh air.

    It is like a switch has just been flicked.

    As can be seen, in addition to the main facade, the previously unpainted gable end of the last house – which has remained exposed since the 1930s when the terminating house was demolished to improve the operation of the tram line – has been given decorative treatment for the very first time. While it has lifted matters considerably, it has to be asked if this measure merely consolidates the exposed gable end’s position here for all eternity. Likewise, the once gritty, raw and urban rendered gable hinted at a troubled history – a curious wound on the streetscape. Now it just looks like a mediocre suburban solution to the back arse of a garage. Still, that marvellously handsome chimney stack elevates it beyond the ordinary. And as the precedent for one of Zoe’s Mountjoy Square houses, it can’t be all bad!

    A subtle and elegant use of colour.

    The next person that says double-glazed panes don’t alter the appearance of a building can go stick their head under a closing sash.

    The beautifully painted new shopfronts. An interesting choice of colour. Nothing inventive going on here (somebody show these guys a Cushman photo or two) but satisfactory nonetheless.

    This of course is one of the most charming shopfronts in Dublin – precisely because it’s not off the shelf. The glittering, hand crafted coves have always been a delight.

    What a difference simple tables and chairs and a few potted trees make, both to an architectural ensemble such as this apse as well as to a wider street.

    We shall be keeping a close eye on these lads. How long shall we give before the novelty wears off, things get battered, banners and canvas railings start appearing, the postering goes up… We’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.

    #776190
    GrahamH
    Participant

    The painting of the ground floor highlights the mismatched nature of the shopfronts. Some unification would be desirable here.

    It also highlights a broader issue: namely that the two distinct properties here really should have been given different decorative treatment, with the five-bay building in the distance being the most cohesive, with elegant shopfronts and good quality stucco to the upper floors. Painting everything the same colours confuses the design intention of the stucco adornments – their very function being to differentiate buildings on the street.

    Rickis on the corner steadfastly refusing to get in on the act of course. Indeed, he went out of his way to advertise his place during works, with naff stickers applied to every conceivable pole around it, and a large sign tacked up around the back of the building which hasn’t come down since. A class act.

    Like the flagpole holders. There’s always some addition forgotton during painting!

    There are white uplighter lamps being trialled above the shopfronts at the minute.

    The doll’s house rear of the Mercantile on Dame Lane has also been painted.

    Nearby on the corner of Exchequer Street, the corner restaurant has changed hands for at least the third time in as many years. Finally, a beautiful new treatment after a ghastly white scheme applied by the last tenant.

    Pavement barriers are generally highly disagreeable, but in this instance they are understandable at this busy junction. A fine design too.

    These guys know what they’re at.

    Back to Dame Street again and the South Great George’s Street junction. Finished for quite a while now, two of the most prominent eyesores in the city have just been given a lick of paint. Terminating the vista of George’s Street stand this frothy collection assemblage of Victoriana. This is the newly completed paint scheme.

    The right-hand building was not treated as part of the works.

    Some before and after shots.

    #776191
    GrahamH
    Participant

    The below picture may need to be refreshed.

    Quite a transformation.

    But again the job played it safe with uniform paint colours on two very different buildings (and rare in style in the Dublin context at that), while also failing to tackle structural issues such as the reinstatement of a tripartite sash window on the middle building (where the window is used as an electronic billboard at night) and cabling continues to marr the shopfronts.

    I really want to support the new Centra store and adjacent unit (out of shot) and the design concept behind it, and most of it is indeed successful, but there are issues of odd materials, dodgy proportions and cumbersome lighting units that sadly let the ensemble down for me. Good to see they’re complying with their postering planning conditions and lofty aspirations to upmarket presentation in their application :rolleyes:

    Up the road on Lord Edward Street, the oldest building on the thoroughfare was recently refurbished for use by the social services next door. Aside from multiple Victorian doors, architraving and skirting ending up in numerous skips out on the road, things were going swimmingly with a lovely new coat of soft green paint applied to the doors and window of the charming original limestone shopfront.

    Until the lady in charge told the painter she didn’t like it, got him to repaint the entire thing in er…

    “I-a, I-a preferred da aaader color toooo – this is very biiiiight!!” he told me. Listen to your painter missus…

    The Legion of Mary comes to Lord Edward Street.

    Pity that clunky fascia didn’t come down; looks like there’s a nice slab of limestone underneath it. Lovely new lettering applied nonetheless.

    Nice cleaning of a smart Edwardian over on Exchequer Street.

    No white paint – yay!

    Sultry and sophisticated. Perfect.

    #776192
    Cathal Dunne
    Participant

    Some good stuff well-documented there, Graham. Great to see Dame St receiving plenty of treatment. It’s a fine thoroughfare and the buildings along it should reflect that. Perhaps this is now a case of shopfront race to the top!

    #776193
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Not something that can be said of this new job over on Nassau Street.

    Okay, so this really surmises the jist of what this whole post is about. Yes, it’s all very well and good to get on the phone to Peter the Painter and get the windows ‘done’, get the walls ‘done’ and the place ‘cleaned up a bit’. But these buildings are not 79 Glenwood Drive in Knocklyon – they are substantial historic properties on the principal streets of the capital that demand, never mind require, a coordinated design strategy before a paintbrush is even applied. And we must face up to the reality that, far from things having become more sophisticated during the boom years across the board, we have lost huge craft in even the deceptively simple task of painting a building or shopfront. Many firms don’t have clue how to identify a building, never mind its constituent parts, or the colours that may be appropriate for each, or the building as a whole based on its period.

    Here we have a totally wasted expense on three buildings that looked better before work ever got underway. The central ebullient building, the former iconic Jammet’s restaurant, has effectively been erased of its stucco dressings, while adjacent brick buildings have had yet another thick layer of paint applied over their original facings.

    Above and below are the same view with half a century in between.

    Mercy, the art of the shopfront has been lost…

    But the point is, this is an example of funds being misdirected because there are no mechanisims in place like in other cities at municipal level to offer assistance or direction in these matters. Had the substantial money invested in scaffolding, labour and paint been diverted and topped up by a free rotating scaffold by DCC, a small facade improvement grant provided by a lottery fund, and expert advice provided in house by a small DCC architectural team, these properties could have been restored to their full potential. The central bulding could have had an appropriately vigorous paint scheme employed, while the two adjacent buildings could have been stripped of paint and render where possible, the original brick exposed, and appropriate fenestration reinserted.

    The brick of the right-hand building survives with apparently fine tuck pointing.

    As for this once fine two-bay house. What a complete mess. These buildings, even with all the will in the world by owners, will never achieve their full potential without the input of the planning authority, and in particular the initiative of the planning authority to identify buildings such as this and take action to address them.

    A dedicated design team is badly needed specifically to tackle the presentation of facades of Dublin’s principal and secondary streets. Let’s even get the main ones right to begin with.

    Including St. Stephen’s Green.

    #776194
    urbanisto
    Participant

    The newly renovated Mercantile on Dame Street is a revelation…a really beautiful job, although as you say let down by the corner unit and dare I say the rear wall and fenestration which you see from S.G. Georges Street. In fact the little “space” here is a prime candidate for improvement.

    Two other Dame Street properties I would like to see tackled are Mermaid Cafe and Gruel building – given a lively paint job when the restaurant first opened in the 1990s but now increasingly dirty and forlorn looking – and The Pen Corner building – surely one of the outstanding buildings on the street lost beneath a layer of soot and dirt. I imagine were this building to be cleaned it would provide a revelation similar to Govt Building when it was “revealed” to the city in 1990.

    A good collection there Graham.

    #776195
    -Donnacha-
    Participant

    Sterling work Graham, really excellent. By any chance have you seen the smiles dental clinic on O’Connell St? Some very dodgy signage has been used.

    #776196
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Alas yes archipig 🙁 – and it’s unauthorised. They erected beautiful chrome plaques when they first moved in, before promptly taking them down and erecting green tackorama on the columns which kinks as they wrap around them, and another green band over the door. Such a shame. No style.

    #776197
    urbanisto
    Participant

    But you see the place above all the surrounding shite….which is important.

    – “Where abouts on O’Connell Street are you?”
    – “Beside Ann Summers?”
    – “Huh?”
    – “The really, loike, old building beside Ann Summers with the bright green pillars”

    #776198
    Devin
    Participant

    That Smiles on O’Connell Street applied for an “external apple-shaped sign to be positioned between the two central columns of the double storey portico” in 2007. They complained that people were having difficulty finding them and that some form of appropriate signage was needed which would be “identifiable, abstract and innovative” and which did not damage the architectural character of the existing building (see planning app. cover letter – http://www.dublincity.ie/AnitePublicDocs/00168789.pdf). They said this sign would be like “the hanging of a lantern from the portico of a fine building.”

    But the City Council refused it, as they considered it would be “visually obtrusive and inconsistent with the character of the building, and would detract from the setting of the protected structure” – 3701/07 …… seemed odd to me given the nature of what was proposed and given the wider fight against the tirade of cheap, rotten design-free shops & signage in the area. If the CC really thought what was proposed was unacceptable, shouldn’t the applicant have been encouraged to come back with another design with the building in mind, rather than forcing them down the unauthorised and inevitably poorer-quality signage route in order to stay afloat?

    #776199
    Devin
    Participant

    Oops, that planning reference number link doesn’t work. This is the correct one: <a href="http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=3701/07&backURL=Search%20Criteria%20>%203701/07

    Passed by the Smiles on O’Connell Street at the weekend and its signage is really not that bad at all – by no means garish. It just needs a holistic treatment with the building.

    #776200
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Ah now Devin – that was a rather ridiculous proposal that was invasive to boot. Just plain silly looking. Typically, the colour wasn’t declared in the application either, other than the giant apple would have an ‘enamel finish’.

    The new unauthorised signage on the columns is cheap and ugly. The unauthorised green band over the door is acceptable, but the previous signage was better.

    I see Spar across the road are up to their old tricks again covering over their chromed signage, this time not with a banner, but an entirely new sign! As for the rest of the street – the place is just falling down with crass unauthorised development, much of it on foot of recent planning applications with completely ignored conditions. It is tiresome listing it all. Planning control legislation just has to be changed. Not only could an instant reversal of unauthorised development take place, fines could be a real cash cow for Dublin City Council if there will was there. But it’s not.

    #776201
    Devin
    Participant

    Re: Smiles. Well that kind of abstract, stark idea on a classical building can look good …. have seen some examples in London, I think.

    Whatever is there at the moment is pretty minimal. Would be way down the list of offenders on O’Conn St. …… unless they put on something during business hours I didn’t see?

    #776202
    urbanisto
    Participant

    The recent improvements to buildings on Dame Street are ongoing. I see the scaffold up above Toni and Guy and the adjoining vacant shop. Toni and Guy has a lovely decorative oriel window and it will be great to see it painted and the facade improved. The last occupier of the vacant unit was a kebab shop (one of many along Dame Street). Hopefully something more upmarket is planned.

    And there are a few other notable additions to the streetscape about the city. Exchequer Street continues to retain a very high standard to shops and shopfronts. The latest additions to the street include The Green Hen (a very nice new French style bistro) and a very attractive use of green tiles further down the street for a new bakery and coffee shop (cant remember the name). They both add greatly to the quality of this street

    Another noted building (though not really a shopfront) is the Bookend building (or at least its neighbour) on Essex/Wood Quay. This building was one of the more impressive new buildings in the city in the early 1990s as part of the Temple Bar development. Since then the constant traffic along the quays (including buses and lorries) had left the frontage dirty and worn. The shop/office units at street level are occupied by a solicitors but hardly make an impact on the street. The building was under scaffold for a few weeks over the past months and has now been revealed. The render facade has been cleaned and metalwork cleaned and repaired. Of interest are the new cyan coloured windows. I quite like them.

    Further down the quays the former city council office at Wellington Quay are being remodelled with a rather bland and standard facade. Still, the original building was a bit of a blight on this section of the quays (a smaller section occupies a prominent point on Essex Street) and the remodeling is welcome. It would be good to see some improvement to the public realm along the quay here. Maybe some trees and greater width to allow for more life along this stretch.

    #776203
    urbanisto
    Participant

    We are getting used to the idea that so much of what was gained over the past few years is being slowly eroded. This sad state of affairs can increasingly be seen in the city centre ( and many other town centres I imagine).

    Walking through Dublin last week I couldnt help but notice the degree to which shopfronts have declines. BTs dazzling display aside, a great many shops are falling back into all the bad habits that are well illustrated in this thread.

    I have heard a rumour that the City Council are now taking a blind eye approach to all new retail in the city centre. Put anything into a unit…as long as they pay rates. There appears to be no enforcement, no requirement to apply for permission to change shopfront, no application of the Shopfront Guidelines, little or no attempt to curb garish frontages. I know its Christmas etc but every shop window now seems plastered with poasters and stickers and temporary banners.

    As ever, ethnic stores are the biggest offender. There seems to bean acceptance that all these operators are outside of the planning system. Some of the Polish skjeps in particular are dreadful.

    Fair enough its a recession. Many of those smart boutiques and lifestyle shops are bound to close down as less money is about. And for whatever odd reasons the demand for tackarama euro shops increases.

    I must get my camera out for some of the worst culprits.

    Perhaps I am just a snob 🙂

    #776204
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Perhaps I am just a snob

    I fear not; coming in on Aircoach you really noticed the number of new signs particularly in the North Inner City; places like North Frederick Street and Parnell Square; what is going on here is that landlord’s desperate to secure any tenant are letting these units often previously in office use to very marginal businesses such as steriod shops, gym’s and mobile phone accessory shops; the tenants are often from juristictions where planning and lease compliance are alien concepts. Compare this with Grafton Street which other than Korkey’s illegal crusade banner is not just under control but it is appropriate, attractive and condusive to both retailers taking money and a good urban environment.

    Recession or no recession some of the signage being put up is beyond a joke; Dublin needs to get off its arse, stop feeling sorry for itself and create the type of environment that will make visitors return….

    #776205
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Aha – Stephen’s eyes have been assaulted by the new Polish supermarket opposite St. Mary’s Church! Did ya ever see the like in all your days? Any other European city and this would be a quaint historic church surrounded by a civic square, little cafés and provisions shops and a daily on-street flower market. Here, we get a redundant roadway – newly paved specifically to make it more redundant – an industrially-railed off church curtilage crowded with commercial tat, a Polish supermarket straddling at least two historic properties forming the setting with newly mauled upper facades, and a fascia board ya can see from outer space!

    Dublin city centre is coming down with unauthorised retail development at present – journalists really should be picking up on this. The entire city is transforming itself into Frank McDonald’s trashy honky tonk O’Connell Street of twenty years ago. Westmoreland Street as we all know is a complete write-off. Dame Street is without question within 18 months of being the same; indeed it is almost there, riddled with unauthorised uses, shopfronts and signage. Lower Grafton Street – give it a year at most based on current trends. Dawson Street is a complete kip and has been for years – how nobody else sees this is beyond me. Grafton Street gets worse by the second. Even South William Street has been losing the modest gains of recent years.

    Everywhere you turn, a new Book Value has cropped up with its lurid turquoise plywood shopfront. What trades as a ‘pop-up’ bookstore is in fact a thriving chain specialising in unauthorised development – South Great George’s Street, Westmoreland Street, Bachelor’s Walk, lower Grafton Street, Merrion Row and elsewhere. Projecting signage is spreading like wildfire through the city. Postering and banners galore. Unauthorised fascias, facade-mounted signage, flagpoles, speakers – you name it. O’Connell Street has got so bad it is virtually impossible to keep track of what’s going on over there – every second store is breaking the law. Carroll’s Irish Gifts and Griffins newsagents have the entire centre wrapped up through unauthorised development – a mass action should be taken by the Department of Environment at this point against these persistent offenders.

    It is well known that DCC Enforcement is grossly under-resourced thanks to the embargo on public sector recruitment and the loss of critical staff in the past year – including the only conservation enforcement officer. Similarly, the push for rates must surely be mitigating against any desire to push for standards across the city centre.

    This just has to change. Dublin has actually been very lucky thus far – there has been relatively few closures in the past few years, in spite of the downturn in spending, and footfall is still holding up. Dublin never seems to suffer the fate of UK urban centres where clusters of vacant units tend to emerge as an immediate sign of a downturn. However, the new year will surely bring a whole new host of realities, and if decent planning codes and standards of presentation are not adhered to – in what is already a distinctly shoddy public realm in the city core – Dublin will only shoot itself in the foot. Indeed, even as we speak, the new Costa on College Green have just waltzed in, set up shop in one of the most prominent and architecturally significant buildings in the city in the former Daly’s club house, without so much as a peep from the planning authority, erected signage, flagpoles and lighting all over the façade, and are now applying for retention permission, plus permission to chop out the granite aprons of the arched shopfront! It simply beggars belief. The fact they think they can get away with this speaks volumes about the authority, the interest, the policy and the vision of the planning body running Dublin city – and for that matter, the mediocre and parochial standards of most of the merchants operating here.

    It’s not all doom and gloom – the Henry Street axis is now without question the best looking street in Dublin, with Mary Street of a truly international – if somewhat soulless – standard. Grand, tall, gracious, immaculately designed and presented shopfronts, good displays, beautifully presented and illuminated historic facades – it makes Grafton Street and most of the city centre look like a landfill site. Needliess to say, it takes international retailers and their own handbook standards to improve the otherwise shoddy urban environment and standards of presentation in Dublin. Likewise, Exchequer Street is now the new Grafton Street – no question about it. The crown has been taken.

    Planning policy leaders, planning enforcement, merchants and business associations seriously need to pull together to get this city into shape.

    #776206
    urbanisto
    Participant

    Eh exactly..I was going to say all that but I got too depressed.

    The fact remains that Dublin is still a desirable place for international retailers. In recent months, we have had Forever21, New Look and Next added to Jervis. Abercrombie and Fitch are taking the former Habitat store. Smaller boutique retailers regularly pop up on Grafton St and Exchequer St. As you rightly point out Graham, Exchequer St is one of the few city streets which feels as if it is actively managed – I wonder is it? Is most of the street owned by a single landlord. However, this attractiveness will very quickly be lost if the complete lack of planning enforcement, application of planning laws and overall vision for the city centre we see today is allowed to continue.

    Some other offences to the senses:

    Subway – bypassing any restrictions on new fastfood outlets in ACA and SPC areas by simply setting up shop in convenience stores, in most cases our old friend Griffiths.
    Cant get your signage installed outside the premises? All you need to do here is plaster the window of the premises with signage.
    Mono-use areas are an increasing problem. Henry Street may be a successful retail street but there is precious little else there. No restaurants worth the mention, limited cafes, limited bars, the market is hideous. As you say Graham, the area in front of St Mary’s Church is ideal for restaurants, although a UK tex mex chain is soon to open there – but its hardly the quality and character this little section deserves. Dame St is almost exclusively given over to bars and takeaways and tat. Very few quality businesses survive on what is the main spine of the city, the centre of the tourist city.

    We should also think of the pervasive effect of a lack of enforcement. Take the Starbucks and Costa example on Dame Street. Why should Starbuck, which provided a good quality frontage generally respectful to its very significant surroundings, feel it should play ball when next door Costa have pulled out all the bells and whistles, seemingly with impunity. In fact Costa can now be considered a serial offender since they took much the same approach to their former premises on Dawson Street. I wonder would they pull the same stunt on High St Kensignton?

    Some other areas to those you mention Graham:

    Talbot Street – a disaster area. Thankfully it retains some charm but some of the worst examples of tat are found here. Of particular interest to me has always been the row of “shops” at the corner with Gardiner Street. In fact they include the corner Georgian townhouse which has been unmercilessly hacked throughout the years. The “shops” regularly change from Polish shop to phone shop to “convenience” stores. All of the cheapest quality. Never so much as an invalidated planning application. It has been this way for YEARS! I would suggest the big ugly advertising hoardings tacked to the side of the building are also unauthorized. But why play ball when the local authority adds its own tat to the mix – see the recently installed concrete bollards at the junction with James Joyce Street which I mentioned in another thread.

    Parnell Street – its gotten worse..if that was at all possible.

    Marlborough Street – a complete disaster area but you only have to walk along it to feel the potential. Think about it: this street has a major college, the primary catholic church in the country, the national theatre, a govt department housed in one of the most attractive campuses of any department, a good deal of extant historic houses, and is 1 block back from the primary thoroughfare of the city and country.

    Camden Street – there are two more applications in the system for super bars on this street! How many more bars can possibly be accommodated. Most places I see are half empty these days – even at weekends. Many of the buildings on this street are owned by a small number of “developers”. I dont think quality is in their dictionary.

    And the last one to leave you with is a recent favourite of mine: the former XL convenience store on Parliament Street. XL got in there, defiled the shop front with a half finished lurid green paint job and a host of unauthorized signage, and went out of business after about 5 months. The ugly shop front remains as a reminder.

    #776207
    gunter
    Participant

    Maybe there’s a design challenge to be met here.

    Commercial premises hunger for impact signage, but you’ll never get planning permission [except by mistake] for anything except low-impact signage.

    Maybe we need to look at ways of designing signage that has more impact, but is less destructive of the streetscape than the current Logo driven signage.

    Lettering itself is surprisingly undestructive of streetscape, even though these examples on 1950s Bachelors Walk probably amount to 100% more actual square footage of signboard than you’d see on the average Centra . . . . . . .

    OK, maybe not Centra

    #776208
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Mono-use areas are an increasing problem. Henry Street may be a successful retail street but there is precious little else there. No restaurants worth the mention, limited cafes, limited bars,

    Without going too far off topic you need to be minful of the concept of bid rent ability in terms of assembling a high quality retial environment, few cafe operators can make money off €400-€600 zone A rents, you just can’t sell enough product; any destination needs a large element of non comparison retail offer to sustain shoppers for a number of hours whilst their wallets are drained between snacks. Taking the Henry Street / Mary Street axis you want the stretch from OCS to Jervis Street pretty much reserved for comparison retail; where the concept falls down is that Liffey Street is full of budget retailers and not cafe’s, Moore Street is ecclectic and not servile to its position in the retail hierarchy, the GPO arcade is niche retail versus a food offer and the Ilac Centre has not capitalised on the potential to create a good food offer.

    Basically the City Council, landlords reps and Retail Lobby need to sit down and move beyond the ‘you can’t do that there planning modelunless you flout the rules model and guess what we commit a lot of resources to making the rules but we have no one to enforce them’ What it required is a change of mindset to one where stakeholders actively plan inserting the type of uses that will sustain Dublin City Centre as a viable retail destination. Legislation around lease expiries to enable non-core uses for landlords to have the ability to see tenancy agreements terminated on expiry of the existing term would be a very good start.

    On signage with most of the examples cited on this thread as an occupier you would not get away with it in any credible retail destination I am familier with……

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