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  • #707305
    urbanisto
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    Donnie Cassidy has put in plans to demolish this architectural masterpiece on Granby Row and replace it with a 118 hotel. No idea what the new plans will look like. The story is in todays Times Property supplement. It is being suggested that all those lovely wax works will be relegated to the new hotels basement. That would be a selling point wouldn’t it!

    #745650
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    very small site – has he acquired adjacent buildings?

    #745651
    urbanisto
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    it wouldn’t seem so, there’s no mention in the planning application/ The proposed hotel is 7 storeys over basement carpark.

    #745652
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There already seems to be a big giant ripping the front off it!;)

    Joking aside, is the Wax Museum run by separate people or is it run by the property owner?

    #745653
    dc3
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    Senator D Cassidy used to own the National Wax Museum, but I think that he disposed of it a couple of years back, it certainly was advertised for sale.

    Would not seem to me to be an ideal hotel location, either site or situation wise, but perhaps there still is a demand for new hotels in Dublin. The first hotel on Dorset Street!

    The site is rather reminiscent of the Abbey Theatre site, in that it is very much constrained by the road layout.

    {Doubless the Abbey rebuild scheme is once again shelved, as redundancy seems to be the word in the green room there just now.}

    #745654
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Actually there is another hotel on Dorset Street, much further up, the name escapes me however….

    #745655
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    The previous incarnation of the building….

    #745656
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The signage in that image is most insensitive, I’d really like to see drawings of the original elevation, it looks a really honest design.

    #745657
    GrahamH
    Participant

    It has to be one of the craziest stories I ever heard when reading that elements of a classical church still remained cloaked under those concrete walls. Even if they’re only fragments – mad! Still don’t believe it!

    How anyone, anyone, in any frame of mind could have destroyed that in favour of what went up…

    #745658
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Be very interesting to watch that demolition, you never know what you might see.

    #745659
    GrahamH
    Participant

    It’d be so funny to be innocently coming along and notice half a church emerging from one of the most reviled piles in the city 🙂

    #745660
    fergus
    Participant

    if you go and take a close look its possible to see glimces of mouldings in the places where some of the concrete has been removed

    #745661
    GregF
    Participant

    This is a really awful area of the city ….a real hotch potch of architectural disasters of the 20th century, including the rubbishy concrete case that is the wax museum itself. (and not forgetting that awful Garden of Rememberance.) Jesus what were they thinking. Looking at the photo of how this area once looked, it’s very sad to realize that all the buildings has since been demolished or somewhat botched. I think the Black Church nearby must be the only antique building that has survived. The Wax works/Plaza Cinema as it looks in the photo would have been a grand edifice bar the signage to house the waxworks today. Pity it’s all to go now , including the Finn MacCuill giant which has charm.

    This area will be a certified non-event with a bland red brick hotel to match the bland appartments across the road. Although it will inject some capital into the area our tourist friends will need to look out for the ”friendly folk” from the nearby flats.
    Too much damage has been done to the city fabric here to recreate what was once the charm in the photo. Gone forever and replaced with dross.

    #745662
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @GregF wrote:

    Although it will inject some capital into the area our tourist friends will need to look out for the ”friendly folk” from the nearby flats.

    I really think generalising comments like that are unfair. Tourists are important to a city, but its population is what should be most important.

    #745663
    GregF
    Participant

    It’s not a generalization……it’s reality!

    #745664
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    How do you know it is a reality? What has been your experience?

    #745665
    GregF
    Participant

    I know a few people who were robbed of their valuables around that locality.

    #745666
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    GregF, that happens everywhere. I am afraid that at present I am concluding that you are actually generalising about everyone who lives in the area.

    #745667
    GregF
    Participant

    I think you are being a little too PC on the issue.

    #745668
    kefu
    Participant

    I agree with GregF. That area is dog rough, to the extent that tourists are warned to be careful with belongings on their way up to the Wax Museum.
    And Phil, it’s also important that when people are given state-subsidised accomodation within walking distance of the city centre, they should show some appreciation of that fact and perhaps take some pride in those lodgings – and not allow them fall into chronic disrepair.

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