Eglinton Street Tower, Cork

@jungle wrote:

Did anyone else go in for the open day on Monday?

I have to admit I was surprised by how small the penthouse apartments were. I guess for the price they were asking, I was expecting something a bit bigger.

Would have love to have gone up there for a nosey, but was in Donegal, scaling the heights of Letterkenny, (the New York of the NW).

Was at the Chamber of Commerce Conference last week though, where Mr O’Flynn was speaking. He was undeterred by the current market and seemed pleased with how the development turned out. Good on him!

@Pug wrote:

certainly beats having a giant sorting office there.

:p On this point, I beg to differ.

Now, to collect a package, anyone living in the city centre has to travel out to Togher industrial estate to collect a package. If you’re trying to be sensible by not owning a car, it means a 20 euro taxi ride out there and back to collect a package that might be worth a fraction of that.

It’s an absolute clusterfuck of a decision, and shows the lack of joined-up thinking in this country. “Let’s make it as difficult and expensive as possible to own a car in the city, then lets spread the facilities around the outskirts of the city so they’re tough to get to”.

@who_me wrote:

:p On this point, I beg to differ.

Now, to collect a package, anyone living in the city centre has to travel out to Togher industrial estate to collect a package. If you’re trying to be sensible by not owning a car, it means a 20 euro taxi ride out there and back to collect a package that might be worth a fraction of that.

are you joking? you would rather a drab green 1 storey building in a prime site in the centre of the city for the convenience of collecting packages? give me a break. The elysian isnt the most architecturally stunning building in the world but it beats having An Post there hands down. There was absolutely nothing stopping An Post taking a retail unit in the Elysian there so people could still collect their packages so you will have to give out about An Post on that one

@Pug wrote:

are you joking? you would rather a drab green 1 storey building in a prime site in the centre of the city for the convenience of collecting packages? give me a break. The elysian isnt the most architecturally stunning building in the world but it beats having An Post there hands down. There was absolutely nothing stopping An Post taking a retail unit in the Elysian there so people could still collect their packages so you will have to give out about An Post on that one

Kind of joking.. 😉

No, I’m not lamenting the undervalued architectural gem that was the An Post sorting office. Not even close! The loss of the sorting office, and the lack of joined-up thinking bugs the living hell out of me though.

@who_me wrote:

Any packages not accepted at the front door can (obviously) only be collected at one location. For me, that’s in Togher industrial estate (for others in the city, it’s in Little Island!).

My point was that not everyone has to go to Togher or Little Island, there are still sub offices. In any event, I agree with Pug that the sorting office would not be a better alternative, and on your point about joined up thinking, I don’t see to be honest what that thinking is/could be?! If An Post contined to occupy prime city centre land for a task that can be done anywhere within 20 miles of the city we’d be complaining about how inefficient they are…:D

@Angry Rebel wrote:

My point was that not everyone has to go to Togher or Little Island, there are still sub offices. In any event, I agree with Pug that the sorting office would not be a better alternative, and on your point about joined up thinking, I don’t see to be honest what that thinking is/could be?! If An Post contined to occupy prime city centre land for a task that can be done anywhere within 20 miles of the city we’d be complaining about how inefficient they are…:D

It’s pretty simple, if the council want people not to use cars, they need to ensure the necessary services are available & convenient for those without cars. (In this case, either an An Post presence around the city centre – there are plenty of brownfield sites in the docklands!!) or at least on a frequent bus route.

If they don’t, then all the plans, goals, hopes, desires, wishes are just pissing into the wind.

@Pug wrote:

Would this be the same council that reputedly sold Navigation House to Owen O’ Callaghan with the proviso that he provide a multi storey car park so the city hall workers and councillors can park for free?

That is a class of joined up thinking I suppose (however lamentable)!

was in cork recently for the first time in years. a lot of impressive new development around. a slow uptake on apartments from the elysian development judging by the photo…

You should see it from the other side, it is a landmark. Landmark ugly.

@shanekeane wrote:

That’s true. Well it’s nice from one angle and then revolting from another, where you can see how it kind of fans out on the top. But, in fairness, Cork in general has a grey and ugly city centre and that’s probably one of the most interesting things there right now.

Wow. Bet you’re one of these people who’d be all for tearing down half the city centre and replacing it with shoddy apartment blocks. What about the character and history? With the exception of parts of North Main Street and the likes, Cork is anything but grey and ugly. And I wouldn’t even consider comparing the Elysian with the city centre ‘in general’…