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    • #708365
      darkman
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      Hi everyone. Its truly asstonishing the number of hotels springing up around Dublin Airport. These have recently included, a Hilton (near Darndale but labelled ‘Dublin Airport’), and a Tulip Inn (Airside).

      But its developments at the ‘Airport City’ development at the M1/M50 junction that has me really interested. A new Bewleys hotel is to open in the spring at this location. I drove by it yesterday and it looks pretty darn big. About 8 or 9 stories. This is the only picture I could dig up, so if anyone else has any images please post them:)

      The next phase, beginning construction shortly has yet another hotel, 16 stories high. Full pp granted however I believe is on appeal through Bord Pleanala by a resident. I cant find any images for this one though, I read about it in the Irish Times Property Supplement. Also this development is to include appartments and office space. I wonder is there any more hotels in the pipeline:confused:

    • #765415
      jdivision
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      Airport hotels are amongst the most profitable in the portfolio of most operators hence the constant appetite for them near Dublin airport. I expect the Clarion to eventually redevelop the old Forte hotel near the Great Southern, if the Aer Lingus head office redevelopment ever goes ahead there will be a number of hotels in it and there is at least one other site near the airport that sold recently that may include a hotel.

    • #765416
      Pepsi
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      There does seem to be a lot of open space in this area to accommodate such buildings. I was out there recently and was pleased to see what is happening. One of those buildings that they are working on at the moment is massive. It’s the perfect spot.

    • #765417
      darkman
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      @Pepsi wrote:

      There does seem to be a lot of open space in this area to accommodate such buildings. I was out there recently and was pleased to see what is happening. One of those buildings that they are working on at the moment is massive. It’s the perfect spot.

      I agree, an excellent landbank in a great posistion and plenty of land. Strange for such a large schme there is little or no information on it. Typically the 16 storey building is being appealed however I think this area is suited to such development and the hotel thats nearly completed does look very impressive:rolleyes:

    • #765418
      -Donnacha-
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      Crowne Plaza at the airport side of Santry is extending even though it’s only open a couple of years. Hard to believe there will really be enough demand to fill all these hotels.

    • #765419
      Morlan
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      It will just mean that there will be less demand for hotels closer to the city centre!

    • #765420
      DublinLimerick
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      Not with the medium term economic parameters

    • #765421
      jdivision
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      @Morlan wrote:

      It will just mean that there will be less demand for hotels closer to the city centre!

      you’ve got to remember that the three Jurys hotels in Ballsbrige are going and the Montrose is going as well. A number of other hotels will also be bought by developers for alternative use values

    • #765422
      GrahamH
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      Heard on the radio this morning that due to all of those notorious tax breaks, a whopping 45 hotels are due to open in Ireland this year, generating no less than 5000 beds.

      Are they some sort of new-fangled disposable hotel that can demolished after the Ryder Cup?!

    • #765423
      jdivision
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      @Graham Hickey wrote:

      Heard on the radio this morning that due to all of those notorious tax breaks, a whopping 45 hotels are due to open in Ireland this year, generating no less than 5000 beds.

      Are they some sort of new-fangled disposable hotel that can demolished after the Ryder Cup?!

      Old story. Was being talked about last year when the tax allowances deadline closed. Most of the hotels will work well but some are being built solely for the tax incentives and without any business plan to support them. That said most of those ones are being built in small towns, not in the GDA.

    • #765424
      Pepsi
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      @darkman wrote:

      I agree, an excellent landbank in a great posistion and plenty of land. Strange for such a large schme there is little or no information on it. Typically the 16 storey building is being appealed however I think this area is suited to such development and the hotel thats nearly completed does look very impressive:rolleyes:

      I am not saying that the buildings are very impressive.The amount of construction work going on in the area is though. It’ll be very different in years to come.

    • #765425
      darkman
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      At last found something on the 16 storey confirmed, another hotel for sure according to the Irish times:

      ‘Permission is being sought for a 16-storey 239-bed hotel in Clonshaugh, 1.5 kms south of Dublin Airport. The Airport City Partnership is seeking permission from Fingal County Council to build the scheme on a 3.5-acre site adjacent to the M1/M50 interchange on Clonshaugh Road North.’

      Architecturally I dont know what this building is like as I cant find any images but id imagine it would look fairly impressive in that area. Certainly I dont see a problem but yet again we have the usual appeals despite the fact that in its location its hardly going to disrupt ppls quality of life:rolleyes:

    • #765426
      -Donnacha-
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      That 16-storey hotel has been given the go-ahead by ABP, following an unsuccessful appeal.

    • #765427
      darkman
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      @AndrewP wrote:

      That 16-storey hotel has been given the go-ahead by ABP, following an unsuccessful appeal.

      Read that yesterday in the times, still dont know what it will look like though. :rolleyes:

    • #765428
      -Donnacha-
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      The hotel may have got the go-ahead but what are the conditions attached? i.e. was the height reduced like what normally happens?

    • #765429
      -Donnacha-
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      There is no height reduction. The main condition is the payemnt of a E2.9 million development contribution to Fingal County Council for the upkeep of public infrastructure.

    • #765430
      Pepsi
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      Does anybody have any images of it? What will it be called?

    • #765431
      jdivision
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      Not 100 per cent sure but it sounds like the Bewleys hotel that’s being built there at the mo

    • #765432
      darkman
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      @jdivision wrote:

      Not 100 per cent sure but it sounds like the Bewleys hotel that’s being built there at the mo

      Its definatley not, this one is 16 storeys high:rolleyes:

    • #765433
      johnny21
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      Building reduced to 11 storeys and under construction beside bewleys hotel on the N32. Under construction by walsh maguire and the architects are john fleming architects. Info on websites http://www.walshmaguire.ie http://www.jfa.ie. Development ranging in height from 6-11 storeys. Hard to tell from these renders the quality of the buildings.

      Also added the new hotel planned for dublin airport. Another 11 storey development!

    • #765434
      johnglas
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      For what it’s worth, we’re just celebrating the 70th anniversary of the 1938 Empire Exhibition here. So what? Well, this was an enormous enterprise (c.150 acres) and was a stunning showpiece for contemporary (Moderne) architecture – I’ve already posted some pics of Tate’s Tower, but the ensemble of buildings (all temporary and all but one demolished) was stunning and an object lesson in (a) having a masterplan, (b) encouraging younger architects to use their considerable design talents and (c) using high-rise as punctuation (to stunning effect). As far as I am concerned, it’s been downhill all the way since in design terms, since the 1938 architecture did not rise without trace but had a clear line back to classical times, but with a rigorously contemporary design aesthetic and the use of innovative materials and decorative flourishes. And Ireland did have its own pavilion. I’ll see if I can get some pics if anyone’s interested.

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