What’s up docks?
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- September 1, 2006 at 11:46 am #751441
malec
ParticipantSpeaking of highrises, has anyone come across this image?
September 1, 2006 at 12:03 pm #751442Keen
Participant@paul h wrote:
Thanks for the shay cleary link phil
Is this project approved??
[ATTACH]2810[/ATTACH]i never heard anything about this before, what is it? is’nt that on city quay? or george’s quay?
September 1, 2006 at 12:27 pm #751443jdivision
Participant@Keen wrote:
i never heard anything about this before, what is it? is’nt that on city quay? or george’s quay?
It’s the old arts centre on the corner. Was bought by Alanis and the Kelly family if memory serves a few years ago. Planning has yet to be sought for it
September 1, 2006 at 1:15 pm #751444jdivision
ParticipantHot off the presses. It’s the Kevin Roche building:
The Spencer Dock International Conference Centre Ltd (SDICC) consortium, warmly welcomes the Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism, John O’Donoghue, T.D.s announcement that it has been designated as the Preferred Bidder for the public/private partnership to design, build, finance and operate the National Conference Centre at Spencer Dock.The SDICC now looks forward to completing the ongoing process with the Office of Public Works and their professional advisors to finalise contractual details to allow the SDICC consortium to swiftly commence work on providing Dublin and Ireland with a landmark state-of-the-art National Conference and Exhibition Centre.
Dermod Dwyer, Chairman/CEO of the bidding consortium (SDICC) stated: “I am delighted that the tender process has reached this important milestone. It is a real recognition for Kevin Roche, the architect, the NEC group as designated managers, CMP/Sisk the building contractors, the extensive Irish and international professional team, and the other major stakeholders particularly the promoters Spencer Dock Development Company (SDDC) – led by Treasury Holdings, all of whom have demonstrated a strong commitment and belief in this project over many years.”
He continued, “Its central location and high specification will put Dublin in a strong position to attract and compete for international conferences.”
The SDICC consortium continues to be bound by the confidentiality agreements as part of the OPW tender process and consequently will not be issuing any further comment until a formal announcement is made.
September 1, 2006 at 1:17 pm #751445Keen
Participantah yes i know the arts building. Any more details about this proposal?
September 1, 2006 at 1:23 pm #751446Maskhadov
Participant@malec wrote:
Speaking of highrises, has anyone come across this image?

Im all for the high rise at the port but those buildings hardly inspire anykind of awe.
September 1, 2006 at 2:10 pm #751447jdivision
ParticipantThis PD document was discussed in a Dublin Port thread iirc
September 1, 2006 at 5:30 pm #751448malec
Participant@jdivision wrote:
This PD document was discussed in a Dublin Port thread iirc
Sorry, I didn’t know that. I just came across this image on the web and was surprised to see something like this. I agree the buildings shown aren’t the best but it’s only an idea of what the place could look like, not what will actually be there.
September 1, 2006 at 6:00 pm #751449Maskhadov
ParticipantThey should get the ball rolling on this PD idea. Simply by putting a cap on the expansion of Dublin port, appointing a committe looking into how to best most all the stuff from the port to other ports around the country and someone to draw up a masterplan for the entire docks.
What they did with the Quays was less than inspiring. I hope they dont repeat the same mistake.
September 2, 2006 at 4:54 pm #751450Anonymous
InactiveI agree but given that this administration have had 9 years to do it and have chosen not to hardly inspires confidence. A start on the T21 agenda in 2000 would have releived many of the problems that are now critical.
September 5, 2006 at 9:39 pm #751451suzy61
ParticipantJust coming in on this here people.Been reading back through posts.Interesting buildings.I agree…it’s all being done in bits and pieces.You’ve got all these “chunks” of development, and within each one, the buildings are fairly similar.But each “chunk” is different to the next.Not that you’d want every building to be the exact same or similar throughout the docklands, but a bit more planning between the whole lot might help.
And you’re right, Altro Vetro is well under way.September 6, 2006 at 2:49 pm #751452Anonymous
InactiveThis looks like it might be of interest to some archiseek users. I would certainly be in favour of seeing the area on front of the Custom House fully pedestrianised once the Port Tunnel is open. It forms such an important part of Dublin in terms of linking the city to the docklands. It would also be good to see different functions taking place under the loopline.
@DDDA wrote:
3. DESCRIPTION AND PROJECT BRIEF Area for new design is marked in red
The Authority seeks to appoint a consultant Architect/Landscape Architect to]www.ted.europa.eu[/url]) and on the etenders website (http://www.etenders.gov.ie). Budget: The project budget is set at €6,000,000.0 for phase one construction which will incorporate the area of Custom House Quay to the front of the Custom House and George’s Quay to the south. Other areas will be phase in collaboration with Dublin City Council and the Office of Public Works later.
September 7, 2006 at 12:48 am #751453GrahamH
ParticipantWonderful News! And on so many levels, as this affects many different parts of the area as well as the building itself.
Currently this part of Custom House Quay is nothing short of a wasteland, paved in acres of concrete slabs with little visual interest. Saying that, any new scheme ought to remain almost equally deferential to the building it flanks, but certainly more low-level interest can be introduced in the form of distinctive paving, sunken lighting and smart seating, perhaps with a central area addressing the portico and centre block. There’s fantastic views of the building to be had from here that are rarely featured in popular photographs – perhaps the scale of it just has to be experienced to be appreciated – and yet the Victoriana seating along here all faces the other way, across the river! Any new seating must be back-to-back in design.
One of the rare investments made by the Corpo in the bad old days is the lovely limestone quay wall along CHQ which is a great asset when one considers the muck of the George’s Quay railing across the river – the building’s principal viewing point. And of course nobody’s bothered to maintain it in decades and is in typically disgusting condition, something you wouldn’t even see in Moscow or decrepit capitals of eastern Europe, where pride is taken in such things. The state of it is shameful. Not that such a utilitarian structure should be there anyway; all of this sweep along with the Matt Talbot railings need complete replacement. It’d also do wonders for arguably Dublin’s most elegant contemporary bridge. Similarly seating and lighting is required on George’s Quay too, and in this case smart lamp standards can be erected along the quay as they’d don’t impede views from here. It’d make for a lovely, softly lit viewing point, especially observe the Custom House’s new floodlighting which must be a part of this plan!
Beresford Place is more tricky, and should the quay become pedestrianised it would make it even more difficult to redesign the place if more traffic was to be diverted onto it as a result.
September 7, 2006 at 2:29 pm #751454Paul Clerkin
KeymasterPropose how the grounds to the Custom House, formerly a public park, can be opened up allowing freedom of movement through, restoring the natural desire lines, usage of the park on all four facades with the potential to change of use within the building creating a dialogue with a new landscape.
I would be seriously against this if it means removing the railings. The Custom House needs to be set back from the abuses of everyday life, or drunken stoned members of society.
September 7, 2006 at 3:46 pm #751455Lotts
ParticipantThis is an interesting and hugely challenging project. I hope it goes well!
I wonder how the dominance of motor traffic throughout the area will be addressed. In particular the multi-stage crossings required to walk by the river from chq to eden quay.
The other tricky point will be reversing the complete abandonment of this area (also Eden Quay, and Burgh Quay) to the homeless, the addicts, and the mentally ill.
I think the opening up of the grounds of the Custom House would involve unlocking the gates rather than removing the railings…
September 7, 2006 at 4:27 pm #751456urbanisto
ParticipantWhile the quay walls are such an important feature of Dublin’s riverside, I think stepping the whole section of quay in front of the Custom House down into the river would be an excellent idea. It would visually connect the Custom House to the river and create an excellent public space.
I am delighted Georges Quay is being tackled..its a disgrace considering its prominent position. I agree that this section of the city is surprisingly desolate and ignored. A new lease of life is just what it needs and its important that reduction of traffic be seen as an important element in that. I am also happy Beresford Crescent is being tackled before its too late. Overall I welcome this project, particularly its ambitious scope.
September 7, 2006 at 7:41 pm #751457Devin
ParticipantMonday is the five year anniversary of 9/11 – a big milestone for all those affected.
.September 14, 2006 at 11:57 pm #751458archipimp
Participanti saw a program on that and it was amazing anyone else see it on rte,it went over all the chances the US goverment had to stop al-queda but didnt take?anyway apparantly the terrorists who did this horrible thing were wanted terrorists already but they were aloud walk straight onto the planes using their real names and all!
September 15, 2006 at 11:37 am #751459damnedarchitect
Participant@paul h wrote:
Thanks for the shay cleary link phil
Is this project approved??
[ATTACH]2810[/ATTACH]Does anyone know who the architects are on this one?
Looks good, will it pass?
September 15, 2006 at 12:06 pm #751460jdivision
Participant@damnedarchitect wrote:
Does anyone know who the architects are on this one?
Looks good, will it pass?
It was an entry in a competition. No guarantee that that’s what will be built
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