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    • #709297
      Pepsi
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      does anyone know if those concrete piles at heuston station are going to get any higher? what is going in there anyway? is it the heuston gate development or is it something else?

    • #787950
      Anonymous
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      That’s Eircoms new HQ (minus the taller portion) – Check out Anthony Reddy’s site

    • #787951
      Anonymous
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      @d_d_dallas wrote:

      That’s Eircoms new HQ (minus the taller portion) – Check out Anthony Reddy’s site

      Why did ABP scrap the taller portion especially when it granted a 32 storey tower just up the road?

    • #787952
      Anonymous
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      I hate this sort of thing. If a design is too high then it should go back to the drawing board instead of having what’s usually the most interesting element chopped off. In this case if that taller part goes then what’s left is just a plain, boring, more of the same type building.

      This is why I hate height reductions, either build the thing properly or don’t build it at all.

    • #787953
      Anonymous
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      @malec wrote:

      I hate this sort of thing. If a design is too high then it should go back to the drawing board instead of having what’s usually the most interesting element chopped off. In this case if that taller part goes then what’s left is just a plain, boring, more of the same type building.

      This is why I hate height reductions, either build the thing properly or don’t build it at all.

      those pilings look damn tall from the quays…are we sure that this is just the smaller part?

    • #787954
      Anonymous
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      I don’t think the taller part was removed or reduced during planning.

    • #787955
      Anonymous
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      if 7-9 storeys could be considered “smaller”…

    • #787956
      Anonymous
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      @Pepsi wrote:

      does anyone know if those concrete piles at heuston station are going to get any higher? what is going in there anyway? is it the heuston gate development or is it something else?

      Don’t know if it helps but they’re digging down in order to build “higher”. The extracted earth will allow them, whenever the planners allow, to add two extra storeys to the buildings without affecting the visible height from the roadside. There’s been a number of applications regarding this already. It is heuston gate

    • #787957
      Anonymous
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      @Andrew Duffy wrote:

      I don’t think the taller part was removed or reduced during planning.

      As far as I can remember, ABP either scrapped or reduced the height of planned 12 and 9 storey buildings.

      Quote:
      Originally Posted by malec
      I hate this sort of thing. If a design is too high then it should go back to the drawing board instead of having what’s usually the most interesting element chopped off. In this case if that taller part goes then what’s left is just a plain, boring, more of the same type building.

      This is why I hate height reductions, either build the thing properly or don’t build it at all.

      I couldn’t agree more with you, malec.

    • #787958
      Anonymous
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      The Eircom building on the corner of the HSQ development is really starting to take shape, looks good.

    • #787959
      Anonymous
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      Some of the development out at Heuston, overlooking the Royal Hospital gardens.

      A rendering on a hoarding.

      Some of the other hoardings show yummy mummies perambulating through the grounds with buggies as if on the way to the shops, with direct access from the new development to the gardens. Will this be the case?

      The tower cranes have now moved from the east of the city to the west 🙂

    • #787960
      Anonymous
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      @GrahamH wrote:

      Some of the development out at Heuston, overlooking the Royal Hospital gardens.

      G-d, it’s very close, isn’t it?

      @mcdanish wrote:

      Its a very difficult city to build Landmark buildings in areas that are suitable.

      Shouldn’t be too hard if the areas are suitable. I guess many areas mustn’t be suitable, in that case.

    • #787961
      admin
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      @GrahamH wrote:

      Some of the development out at Heuston, overlooking the Royal Hospital gardens.

      A rendering on a hoarding.

      That rendering is a fairly typical example of the artistic licence taken in contemporary renderings; the wispy sky and absence of sun glare on the extensive glazing. Not to mention the stone gate style feature displayed as being open.

      During the discussion on Hueston Gate proposal in late 2003 someone made the point that the height of the tower was irrelevant to The Royal Hospital in the context of this permission. They were right this scheme is an unmitigated disaster destroying the context of the finest 17th Century building in the Country.

    • #787962
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      At last we actually know how many levels will be in the watchtower – 35.

      http://www.crosbieproperty.ie/point2.html

      Developments around Heuston look good especially the ‘west gate’ eircom development. Dont think Heuston gate is under contruction yet.

    • #787963
      admin
      Keymaster

      Would love to see you give an architectural critique of the wes gate scheme and address its siting beside the Royal Hospital

    • #787964
      admin
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      @Pepsi wrote:

      does anyone know if those concrete piles at heuston station are going to get any higher? what is going in there anyway? is it the heuston gate development or is it something else?

      Any chance of an architectural critique of the sceme peps

    • #787965
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      New paving works are being carried out around Heuston Station and it’s much of an improvement. The central median is already completed. Maybe a few trees here would look better. However another new set of traffic lights is being installed at the mo directly in front of the portico which is going to have the new paving extended to it’s front.

    • #787966
      admin
      Keymaster

      Visual Assessment compiled by Model Works http://www.modelworks.ie

    • #787967
      Anonymous
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      Is it just me or have you move some of the buildings, the curved building for ecample (straight from dubai ;))

      I was lucky enough to have a tour of the site last week, so of it is quite impresssive, from a construction point of view,
      They went down quite deep, Took a while to remove the soil as it was contaminated.
      But the secant piling is main feature of the site.

      The eircom HQ looks well, the floor slabs are very eyecatching, They are curver with the edges cantilevering and tapering, the result is that the spandrel panels on the glazed facades are much smaller,
      with the floors like this i imagine that they will be left exposed

      PVCKing wrote:
      That rendering is a fairly typical example of the artistic licence taken in contemporary renderings]
      Actually the gate will be opened like that, you should be able to walk through to the central plaza and leisure area in the centre
    • #787968
      Anonymous
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      @PVC King wrote:

      . They were right this scheme is an unmitigated disaster destroying the context of the finest 17th Century building in the Country.

      Talk about the skyline around the Hospital strikes me as irrelevant considering what’s actually been done to the building itself by the IMMA.

      On the other hand, why aren’t they building this out in the docklands?!!!

    • #787969
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      What is the update on the 32 storey tower in Heuston? This was granted full permission in 2005 and it is now the latter half of 2007. Does anyone know if construction has started on this? Will it be behind the Westgate development or will it also front onto the main Galway road?

    • #787970
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Anyone see what they’re building around the corner beside Kilmainham Gaol. Ok, the Hilton hotel doesn’t look bad, but the apppartments under construction beside it are squat little blocks with vertical strips on the windows. Kinda look horrible at the mo.

    • #787971
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Yeah, that’s a very poor development, especially given that it’s one of the most-visited tourist spots outside the city centre. The apartments manage to be too low, yet visually overbearing. I can’t recall the strips on the windows, but they have horrible, massive, chunky balconies. The Hilton’s not great either. There’s a weird vertical mesh-type feature running up the front that I can imagine will weather well.

    • #787972
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Obviously that should have read “can’t imagine”!

    • #787973
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      [quoteI hate this sort of thing. If a design is too high then it should go back to the drawing board instead of having what’s usually the most interesting element chopped off. In this case if that taller part goes then what’s left is just a plain, boring, more of the same type building.

      This is why I hate height reductions, either build the thing properly or don’t build it at all.
      .[/QUOTE]

      A tall building should be like a pair of trousers:made to fit, proportionate not arbitrary, not like a length of sausage meat that you can chop any length you want and slap it up.

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