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    GrahamH
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    Does anyone know what the cut stone building is in the grounds of Trinity that backs onto Nassau St, on the left hand side of the Provost’s House?
    I have wondered what it is for years and years yet never actually asked anyone.
    Any aerial photographs I have of the campus are fruitless.
    It’s just behing the railings and is simply adorned to the rear with tuscan pilasters and a cornice and looks for all the world like a neoclassical bike shed!

    Any clues?

    And also in Trinity, does anyone know what the little cottage on the other side of the College was built for – it faces onto College St just beside the 15 bus-stop.
    Anyone I have ever been with at the stop have commented about how charming it is, tucked away in a little leafy oasis in the middle of the city traffic.
    It would appear to be late Victorian.

    #735728
    GrahamH
    Participant

    ……clearly set to remain mysteries then so……

    #735729
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I think it was a carriage block

    #735730
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hello Graham. I am sure the history of art department in Trinity might know. I have put their website below and their e-mail address at the bottom. If you find out could you post some of your findings here?
    good luck

    http://www.tcd.ie/History_of_Art/html/contact_us.html

    arthist@tcd.ie

    #735731
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Thanks phil – nice to know that I’m not the only nosey one here!

    I’ve just mailed them.

    #735732
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Got reply – they’re on holiday until mid-Sept, we’ll have to wait.

    #735733
    brianf
    Participant

    Originally posted by Graham Hickey

    And also in Trinity, does anyone know what the little cottage on the other side of the College was built for – it faces onto College St just beside the 15 bus-stop.
    Anyone I have ever been with at the stop have commented about how charming it is, tucked away in a little leafy oasis in the middle of the city traffic.
    It would appear to be late Victorian.

    Chief Steward’s House
    This building, formerly the residence of the College’s Chief Steward, now houses offices for retired Fellows of the College. http://www.tcd.ie/Maps/cs_hse.html

    Not much information, I know, but better than nothing.

    #735734
    MG
    Participant

    I cannot place the cottage at all but as far as I am aware, the block that backs onto Nassau Street was a carriage & stable block.

    #735735
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Thanks everyone.

    #735736
    GrahamH
    Participant

    30th Sept 2003

    Well I got a reply.

    The house is indeed the Chief Stewards House – however thats all the info they had!
    It looks like it was built around 1880.

    And yes the other is also the Provosts Carriage and Coach House.
    It was designed in 1841 by Frederick Darley (who worked on the Kings Inns after Gandon) while he was architect to the college.

    #735737
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    On a similar subject. Does anyone know what happened to the gate lodge which used to be at lincoln gate? It looked like each brick was being numbered so that they could be reassembled somewhere else!

    #735738
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Originally posted by Graham Hickey
    And yes the other is also the Provosts Carriage and Coach House.
    It was designed in 1841 by Frederick Darley (who worked on the Kings Inns after Gandon) while he was architect to the college.

    Frederick Darley
    http://www.archeire.com/architects_ireland/darley_frederick.html

    #735739
    GrahamH
    Participant

    22/7/2006

    John Henry Foley’s handsome statues of Edmund Burke and Oliver Goldsmith outside the West Front on College Green have been beautifully restored over the past number of weeks.
    Both figures of bronze mounted on granite plinths, Goldsmith to the right was erected in 1864, while Burke a little later in 1868.

    It has been an impressively fast project, if clumsily taking place in high tourist season. The transformation, as with O’Connell Street, has been remarkable.

    Here is Burke before and after:

    And the plinth:

    Indeed the granite is now so bone white that it has assumed a new decorative role: now accenting the Portland stone dressings of the West Front! The plinths no longer disappear into their backdrop of heavy granite rustication.

    The bronze is once again smooth, silky and jet black – what a transformation!

    Alas I’ve no direct ‘before’ image of Goldsmith, but you can still see the extraordinary change with this:

    Foley’s stunning detailing has come to life again:

    Just look at the execution of that necktie!

    And other clothing:

    #735740
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Side by side:

    Combined with the sweeping railings and gracious West Front, they make for one of the most striking set pieces in the city.

    The birdies approve of the new look too 🙂

    #735741
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    excellent pics Graham, thanks ! the detail on the scarf …

    have to go back to the waste that is college green, to me potentially the most spectacular space in the city, devin’s pic from another thread says it all …

    I know its on DCC’s agenda but how long will we have to wait ! ?

    The luas decision comes in September, it seems that the marlborough st. option & bridge has gained some ground ….

    whatever happens, college green can’t be left in its current state much longer.

    #735742
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Yup – absolutely.

    Literally thown this together (clearly!), but gives a good idea as to the disaster zone College Green has become:

    What a mess! 😮

    #735743
    a boyle
    Participant

    that before and after photo you have mocked up is very interesting.

    i think there are so many different things needed to feed into each other in order to bring about an improvement in college green and the city center in general .

    there is transport: no one has actually decided what is going. happen.

    will the interconnector and metro be built ? in that case will all(most) bus routes be diverted away from the city, as they ought to be?
    are we going to continue to allow this network of access to city / are we going to continue to create traffic cells?

    then there is planning. are we to try to create a linear park the length of the liffey (there were comments that it might not be needed the whole length on the other thread / but i think if you build it they will come. ) or are we going to create a pedestrian zone from the green to parnell . (i don’t think we can to both.)

    then there are the licensing laws. If we took away all that junk from college green got rid of traffic , we would have to replace it with something … some small kiosks fronting the square would be great (ie. facing trinity with ulsterbank to the right and boi to the left) I saw this done in stockholm and it was very cool.

    i have a book by frank mcdonald that i read sometime ago , in it he keeps pointing out that while individuals have valliantly tried to improve things we have been perpetually muddling through for decades. In truth since the start of republic. I found it a thouroughly depressing thought at the time but it is true.

    You won’t see the vision and the balls to improve college green for a decade (ahern not going to do , and enda is even less inspiring.)

    what would be great is a bold big ,expensive fountain . bus stops moved to three locations dames street westmoreland and nassau.

    there is a peculiar fact (actually proven) that the best way to improve traffic is actually close roads.

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