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    • #709793
      GrahamH
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      They weren’t all impeccably-mannered gentlemen of good breeding in former times: some were utter scoundrels I say! Of the highest order! One wouldn’t employ one of their sort for all the claret in Daly’s, as we shall see below!

      I was in the Trinity Chapel a few weeks ago with the esteemed Eddie McParland, so all credit for this discovery (and indeed part of the interpretation) is very much his. He pointed to a window where he’d noticed what looked like some graffiti about two storeys up in a pane of glass which was only visible when you walked in such a manner as for it to stand out against the dark buildings outside.

      Alas there was no way we could even remotely read it without getting up on scaffolding, or wait years for the windows to be repainted, however with the aid of a trusty zoom lens I was able to capture it there and then :). Also thanks to digital tweakery, as we were to discover it’s actually on the outside, so I just flipped it around and all was revealed.

      As far as we’re aware this has not been read by any eyes – if even painters – in over a century.

      Pat Killium

      Painter and Glazier

      from Galway town

      1822

      O you Contry Spalpeen

      Bad Luck to you

      Ruth G [?]

      Oct 3rd 1889

      Charming!

      I’d remind you of a similar discovery in the windows of the City Hall rotunda during the recent restoration.


      © Hugh MacConville (Dublin City Archives)

      Damn the Cargo is presumed to be a reference to the building of the new Custom House further downstream away from the commercial heart of the city.

      So start etching folks!

    • #797051
      admin
      Keymaster

      wow thats great stuff. I wonder what pat the aul spal’peen did for Ruth to go to that trouble, & that much later !

    • #797052
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      ive been told theres a similar etching in the brazen head pub

    • #797053
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      It seems to have been common in the trade – I had an old house in Dun Laoghaire that had glaziers’ engraving marks dated 1848 and 1906. When I sold it, my beautifully restored sash windows were ripped out and replaced by horrid outward-opening sh1t.
      Kb

    • #797054
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Gah! Unbelieveable, especially as they were restored 😡
      Any pic by any chance KB2?

      Yes at first Peter it does appear that they knew each other, but upon review they did not – the ‘Ruth’ chap is only being a smug fecker in the knowledge of the almost certain passing of Pat by that stage.
      Well now they’re both six feet under! Suppose it highlights what a brief time we have to make our mark, in every sense…

      Wonder what they would have thought of their exploits being visible right across the world nearly two centuries later 🙂
      Indeed what I find particularly interesting is the assumption that the graffiti, and therefore the glass and sash, were going to be there for posterity to see. No glazier would bother with such efforts today in the knowledge that the entire window, let alone the glass, will not even be there in 50 years time.

    • #797055
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Graham,

      Your even toned headlines get drowned out in the hysteria of contemporary media. If you want people to read your new threads, you’ll have to get more Daily Mailish about it. May I sugggest:

      Vandals Destroy Priceless Windows in Historic Buildings

      Ruth G obviously understood the gravity of his offence, hoisting herself to that height to record her displeasure at his boorish, agricultural act.

      (Wouldn’t it be possible to discover who Ruth G was?)

    • #797056
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      I imagine it would, given the likelihood of surviving payroll records or the limited number of mainstream contracting companies in the late 19th century. Such a specific date is very useful.
      Incidentally in the case of City Hall, records were checked but neither of the names were found on the regular payroll.

      Yes I deemed the title distinctly dull alright, but nothing unusual there 😉
      I like your alternative, only the Daily Mail wouldn’t care for such matters – think of the shivering children deprived of a soothing protective shroud of PVC.

    • #797057
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      You’re right, of course. The headline should properly read:

      Vandals Destroy Priceless Windows in Historic Buildings
      Possible sighting of little Madeleine McCann in the vicinity of the Chapel, says witness. Provost to be quizzed on his whereabouts on that fateful night.

      Turn to page 7 for pictures (just below the long lens shots of Tina Hobley topless in the Bahamas).

      Aaanyway…

      For some reason I presumed Ruth G would have been a female student- worth checking the college register too? But then, how did she access the window? It’s an interesting one alright.

    • #797058
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Damn the Cargo… 😀
      Imagine of Gandon’s design was chose for the Royal Exchange. That would have been irony.

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