trinity and nassau street
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so, there is discussion in the college of weather it would be possible to build between nassua street and the cricket pitch, the point being that commercial units on the ground floor could fund office buildings above.
obviously anything built here would have to be nice and, it is felt, should have gaps to allow “framed” views of the open space beyond. given this, it is felt, such a development could benefit nassau street as well as the college.
any views?
That is interesting Notjim. I remember mentioning that as being a possible (but unlikely) location of construction within Trinity (on the ‘Trinity due for demolition 2005 thread) and you very much thought that it would never be built on. Is this plan coming from the top, or is it just discussion within the college? I see that the Pearse Street plan got the go ahead.
only the first bit of the pearse street plan got the go ahead, that is, building between luce hall (the stw box) and pearse street. the planners report emphasised the value of the listed buildings on the street, i don’t know what the implication of this for the rest of the pearse street plan.
the discussion of the nassau street frontage arises in the context of the so called 2nd development control plan, but is very vague since all this land is zoned open space by the dcc.
i had thought it would never be built on because a previous plan to build there had fallen through, but, it seems it is now felt that emphasing the quality of the building and leaving gaps between buildings allowing a view through to college park, would make it more likely that such a plan would be successful.
Certainly development here will drastically alter the character of Nassau St – hard to imagine it at the moment with buildings on both sides.
Where would the railings fit into this scheme if retail units were to built on the ground floor?
Although, the height of the wall at present prevents any decent perspective of the grounds for even the tallest of people, so it’s not as if we’d be loosing sweeping views of greenery – but still.As always it depends on the nature of development and its design – to state the obvious.
I was based in the Museum Building (1853-57. Architect:John Ruskin) for four years during the early ’80s and spent many an afternoon perched on on the sills of the Cartography Lab overlooking the cricket pitch. They view over to Nassau Street with the trees, the Alliance Française and even the Setanta Centre was (and still is) something quite special and unique in Dublin. I’d hate to see it go.
Nassau Street itself is a little busy these days with cars, coaches and buses but, at least its nice to see something being
done about the pavement on the Trinity side. The wall/railings running the length of the street are unfortunate and should be
resigned to history. Sadly, the best views over the cricked pitch are from the top of a bus or from the cafe in the Kilkenny Design Centre.I believe any development in the area should consist mainly of ‘building down’, leaving the trees and extending the current level of Nassau Street as open space into Trinity. The traditional separation of the college from the outside world could be maintained with less fortress-like railings.
So, this was discussed in the times today, it makes it sound very nice, some buildings, but, in return, views of the cricket pitch.
it is hard to see how this would work in practice, if the buildings have any depth the views will be narrow slices, maybe the buildings could have triangular footprints, or, even better, the development might create viewing platforms back from the current line of the wall and rail.
the article also appears to confirm that the dcc have indicated that they won’t allow the planned demolishions on pearse street which is good. also, if, as is possible, coach parking is moved to pearse street, tcd will be glad of edwarding shopfronts, they will be able to lease them out to carrols, blarney woolen mills and so on.
That’s great news for Pearse St.
I don’t agree that the Nassau St railings are unfortunate, they make a magnificent statement whilst not being overly fortress-like.
What would have been unfortunate is a rubble stone wall which Trinity could equally have built around its grounds in the 19th century.Nassau St is one of a kind in the city centre by having buildings on just one side with railings/green views on the other (other than the squares) with the railings generating a unique character and quality to the street, indeed they are something of a landmark.
Where railings should be removed and retail installed is around the other side, on Pearse St, which drastically needs development – indeed it’s surprising Trinity of all people even bothered to put repros around here.On a barely related topic – does anyone know what that building is outside the window of the cafe in that ridiculous Referendum Commission ad on the telly?
It looks like the Museum Building but the stone window detail is different and there’s no big windows facing it, so short of them going to Venice to shoot the thing does anyone what/where it is – Dublin or elsewhere in the country?
Sorry but it’s really annoying me – something of a minor (nervous laugh) pastime recognising buildings from details!Is it the AIB on Dame Street?
http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/dame_street/aib_damestreet.htmlWas thinking of this but I think the ad has that classic jagged-effect carving outlining the arches. But the capitals and window frames seem nearly identical alright – have to see the ad again now to check!
The building seems very close to the ‘cafe’ window too.It would have to be across the road though for the bank to be outside the window and there’s nothing there but the Roomkeepers building and the one beside it I think…
Clearly your one in the ad does – and to herself at that!
Thanks for that – never noticed it before – usually too busy drooling over the Indigent Roomkeepers (very early plate windows!) must pop into the cafe someday, probably crawling with tourists at the moment.
They are a little vague,
It would be interesting to see more detail.
Any progress on sourcing the Pearse St photos/drawings?
Not really much information there. Not in favour of developing there anyway. Always liked the idea of the coaches and parking being given the heaveho and a nice wide pavement with trees on both sides of Nassau Street…
and those prisms look like a row of broken teeth 😉
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