Till receipts for planning objections
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Hi,
I’ve a planning application in for a largeish development at the moment of which the last day for objections was yesterday. When I rang the planners at close of business yesterday they had received no objections, however, when I checked again this afternoon – NIMBY’s objection now in place.
Q: Can I request a copy of the till receipt for the objection with the time, date, app no etc on it or am I being a bit utopian?
Ta muchly,
BK
I wouldn’t be optimistic for your chances if you decide to contest it. ask for the receipt if it’ll put your mind at rest, but it’s almost certainly going to say it arrived yesterday.
The planners wont receive the objection straight away. It could have been loged and still in admin when you rang? The regs are strict in this regard so I doubt very much that there is anything underhanded going on.
Thanks for comments guys – it’s pretty much the conclusion I’d reached myself however, client has asked me to formally request the receipt.
@ Wexfordplanner:
From your own experience are there any problems/issues in getting a copy of the receipt or is it a fairly standard request?Thanks again,
BK
To be honest im not sure, but I couldnt see too much of a problem in getting one, Freedom of information and all that…..
As the applicant, you can obtain a copy of all objections at a minimal cost, if any at all. The submissions should be date stamped and may also have a letter of acknowledgment. As Wexfordplanner says, the regs are strict.
In Dublin anyway!!! From the point of view of a prescribed body (An Taisce) there is massive mal-administration of the Planning & Development Act with regard to the regional local authorities. Examples include:
> Failing to refer important planning applications to An T as required> Failing to acknowledge submissions made by An T (can’t then appeal, if needs be)
> Failing to inform An T of decisions in cases where submissions were made by An T
> Failing to produce planning lists within the legally required time period
Outrageously, the DOE refuses to intervene & get them to comply with their requirements under the Act. The upshot is that shoddy, environmentally dodgy development gets through all the time. The only recourse is to take legal action on an individual case if it warrants it.
Imagine what the world could be like if only the DOE would get up off their behinds and allow an taisce to dictate what buildings should be allowed in this country. We are allowing this utopian dream to slip away from us like dung through the fingers. Shame on Minister Roche and all his unholy works….
From Unison.ie:
http://www.unison.ie/breakingnews/index.php3?ca=9&si=67840
EC to take action against Ireland over planning objection fee
@Rockflanders wrote:
Imagine what the world could be like if only the DOE would get up off their behinds and allow an taisce to dictate….
I knew somebody would say that….
Seriously whatever feelings ye hold about An T objecting to projects ye are involved in, nobody would criticise An T if they knew what the smaller planning authorities are like…political interference so as the local development plan can be bypassed…facilitation of the local wheeler dealer in his gombeen Leisure centre/hotel/golf course…county managers overturning professional planners’ advice to refuse one-off houses on a huge scale (and not just in Kerry)….granting permission for housing estates on river flood plains…the list goes on…they would do anything to stop a project going to An Bord Pleanala because they know that there and only there you find consistency and – shock horror – adherence to local development plans!@BeeKay wrote:
Hi,
I’ve a planning application in for a largeish development at the moment of which the last day for objections was yesterday. When I rang the planners at close of business yesterday they had received no objections, however, when I checked again this afternoon – NIMBY’s objection now in place.
As a matter of interest BeeKay, had you been in contact with the people who are making an objection to your proposal before you put in your application? ie, are these people objecting even though you had got their points of view prior to finalising your design? The term ‘NIMBY’ is often used far too loosely. As I said, it could be fair enough if there was consultation etc etc, but given that it is the only official method available for people to express their point of view, it seems quite harsh.
@modular man wrote:
What does Nimby mean?
Modular Man, it means ‘Not In My Back Yard’. It is a word used to describe people who are opposed to developments in their area.
@ Phil
Yeah Phil, we went through a full consultation with the neighbouring property owners and reorganised the development a number of times – addressing their voiced concerns and ensuring minimal impact on their properties, however they still felt the need to object to the application – fair enough I suppose, but when you’ve spent a large amount of (your) time and money trying to facilitate people who are just not prepared to compromise, then I think you’ve deserved the right to brand them NIMBY’s!
No hassle getting the till receipt btw…
Cheers,
BK
That’s fair enough in that case Beekay.
Thanks,
Phil
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