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    • #704968
      notjim
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      As an alternative to Stack House A, wouldn’t the Magazine Fort be a lovely location for the proposed Children’s Interactive Science Museum. It outer walls are an interesting and exciting shape and because of their height and the Magazine’s hilltop position, development inside the walls wouldn’t intrude visually on the park. The Fort is near the zoo and the area around has a good view and would make a nice picnic and play area.

    • #715916
      Drawingboard
      Participant

      A great suggestion, the buildings are still in good condition and even as an adult I find the surrounding ditch and shape exciting.

      In the hands of an architectural competition, the city could acquire something very exciting and innovative. Its shape would allow innovative architects to shine.

    • #715917
      Michael J. OBrien
      Participant

      I think that there is a Military/Army museum planned for the Magazine Fort. I think this would be more appropriate considering its orginal function.
      Does anyone have more information about the proposed museum?

    • #715918
      GregF
      Participant

      That is a great proposal…a military museum would far more appropriate considering the original usage of the Magazine Fort…(although our history of military campaigning can be described as a barbaric hotch potch of nationalism, colonialism and terrorism). However all are facts of our history so I think the ‘National Military Museum’ idea is very apt, why hide it?

    • #715919
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      I dunno… if you have a military museum out of the way like at the arsenal, no-one may go to see it… look at the example of the Royal Arnaments in Leeds (i think)…. put the military in one of the blocks of Collins Barracks where people will see it….

      put something that will drag people to the arsenal out there… something like a science museum would work….. more pulling power….

    • #715920
      GregF
      Participant

      …..have it connected with the ‘Museum Link’ particularly Kilmainham Gaol. Would the Magazine Fort be a bit too old and archaic for a science museum?…that could be built down the docks instead as a high tech modern facilty.

    • #715921
      notjim
      Participant

      Why this obsession with not mixing new and old buildings and not finding new uses for buildings that have lost their original function. It can be done badly, but Museums, like Galleries, Universities and Government Buildings, often mix old and new and often do it very effectively. In the case of an Interactive Science Center using the Magazine Fort would add a depth of texture and history a totally new building would lack.

      On the other hand, I have to agree an Arsenal would be another good, albeit dry, use of the Magazine, my only fear would be that an Arsenal is something you drop into whereas a Science Center is something you make a trip too. Now, designing a contemporary arsenal on the docks would be an interesting challenge!

    • #715922
      GregF
      Participant

      Hi,
      Example of old building of particular use not suitable for alternative contemporary use…….. the Museum of Modern Art…….aka the Royal Hospital Kilmainham. It’s display areas are rather awkward, too many nooks and crannies…..compare it to the Green on Red Gallery or the Royal Hibernian Academy….huge open spaces with huge blank walls.
      However….example of old building of particular use suitable for alternative contemporary use…….. Collins’s Barracks…what a great display area and what a great job they did.

    • #715923
      kefu
      Participant

      The Magazine Fort might not be entirely appropriate for any kids to be hanging around considering the amount of rent boys that frequent the area

    • #715924
      notjim
      Participant

      Actually, it now seems that the science museum might be located out with the sports campus, not a bad idea I guess, though I don’t know what the rent boy situation is like in Abbotstown.

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