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  • #720455
    Lorcan
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    #720456
    chewy
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    wow that looks unusual that the arch thats already there, i wonder if they really would have busses driving around it? i preusme that use to have practical use?

    #720457
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Its the stone gateway that allowed access to the Custom House docks when they were completely walled in. It replaces an earlier wooden gateway and dates from around 1851 …. in the original Hardwick / McInnerney / British Land proposal for the docklands, it was to be place where the Luas pulls into Connolly Station…..

    #720458
    GrahamH
    Participant

    It was George Lee’s favourite news backdrop in the crazy boom years – the IFSC being the centre of the financial world :¬)

    #720459
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    He used to get so exited, before Charlie Bird tamed his enthusiasm for all things capital after NIB.

    BTW there were two pieces on the Docklands in the Business Post today of Interest, firstly the DDDA has appointed a Director of Architecture. John McLaughlin joind from BDP, a UCD graduate he also worked at Atelier Gaudin Architects in Paris notably on the National Museum of Asian Art and on the Charlety Athletics Stadium which won the Equerred’Argent prize, and was a finalist for the Mies Van Der Rohe award for European Architecture.

    I really hope his appointment leads to higher standards in Docklands architecture and this guy certainly has the CV to know what he’s doing.

    The Weihnachtsmarket has opened in Mayor Square and features 50 traders selling Christmas gifts, and it is great to see yet another DDDA event kicking off although I must wish good luck to them as I wouldn’t fancy spending all day in December in the great outdoors.

    #720460
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    Jack Fagan wrote:
    Hotel, three restaurants and shopping for docks building
    Jack Fagan

    Docklands: The newly restored Stack A is to become a key entertainment, leisure and shopping facility in Dublin’s Custom House Quay.

    The early 19th century warehouse, due to trade as CHQ, is to accommodate a boutique hotel, three major restaurants, an exhibition centre, private cinemas, health and fitness clubs, cafés, bars, nightclub and a range of shopping facilities.

    The Dublin Dockland Development Authority (DDDA) spent around &#8364]

    Whats the verdict?

    #720461
    urbanisto
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    Its not open yet!

    #720462
    Rory W
    Participant

    October a little Dickie Bird told me

    #720463
    notjim
    Participant

    This is a scandal, a number of good visitor attraction suggestions were made to the DDDA, Interactive science museums for example have a well-established ability to bring in huge crowds and with Dublin’s shortage of childrens activities, it would have done great. Instead, they were fixed on shopping and dazzled by the idea of Harvey Nicks, the cultural subsidy was wasted and then they couldn’t get tenants, presumably for the want of footfall, now they are going to have a hotel, like that’s exciting, and a few resteraunts and to get footfall up they are going to put the abbey on stilts, ruining one of the finest parts of the docklands areas. Fucking idiots.

    #720464
    GrahamH
    Participant

    What in the name of all that’s sane is a ’boutique hotel’?

    #720465
    t.scott
    Participant

    boutique hotel = independent (generally) and unique hotel designed to appeal to the hip element. kinda like the morrison but usually a little smaller.
    why does it always appear that you’re damned if u do and damned if you dont!!?!!
    at least the buildings werent bulldozed and replaced by a 4 storey box…

    #720466
    Lotts
    Participant

    @Graham Hickey wrote:

    What in the name of all that’s sane is a ’boutique hotel’?

    It’s like a wellbeing area, only bigger :rolleyes:

    #720467
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    But in relation to the absolute absence of physical cultural facilities in the IFSC/DDDA administered area, can someone please explain how developments clear planning and/or are spun by exempted development authorities as containing ‘CULURAL PROJECTS’ that never materialise.

    Temple Bar
    The Harp area
    Stack A

    Will Heuston Gate be next?

    #720468
    notjim
    Participant

    Thomond Park I was surprised you include Harp in that list; I thought they were better than the others.

    #720469
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    It is insomuch as that it has the National Museum and Jameson Distillery amongst others but the point I was making is a more general one about different areas being described as ‘The Next Cultural Quarter’ with most of the cultural elements discussed pre plan never materialising upon completion.

    #720470
    urbanisto
    Participant

    They are a bit of a dodgy addition though aren’t they….. I mean how many scheme have we seen in recent years with some pointless ‘Museum of’ attached to it. Maritime in Dun Laoghaire, Children in Heuston…. I personally find them a bit gimmicky. I suppose that is the point though. They sell the idea to the planning authorities but once the scheme is approved and commences they suddenly become unviable and before you can say ‘cultural attraction’ they become a superpub (with a cultural theme of course)

    Im looking forward to seeing Stack A open. I think the DDDA finished off this whole area very well. Just went by it last night having again being told to dismount from my bike on the new bridge. I wonder how long the security will last. Gripes about building height and style aside I think the Docklands looks like a really inviting place in the summer. I think its important taht the section south of OConnell St should be carefully developed to encourage people down towards the Docklands.

    #720471
    notjim
    Participant

    HARP: But there are also those new dance studios behind talbot street, Pallas Heights and the Firehouse Art Studios on like Sean McDermott street.

    I am looking forward to Stack A opening, but I do think it is a waste; there are a million buildings in Dublin suitable for a Botique Hotels, ironically this is the new suggestion for that school were they were going to put the Abbey. Many of the cultural attractions are a crock because noone really cares, but at least two of the suggestions for the Stack House had real passion behind them: a gallery suitable for large works and an encylopedic display of irish art perhaps from the opw collections and an interactive science museum, the latter something the town needs and a sure winner if done right. I also think that putting the abbey on the dock might be nice, but the dock is great as it is and the abbey could have a greater transformative potential if put somewhere else.

    #720472
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @notjim wrote:

    HARP: But there are also those new dance studios behind talbot street, Pallas Heights and the Firehouse Art Studios on like Sean McDermott street.

    All in the North East Inner City Area which was never described as the next cultural quarter, I think that the Firehouse Art Studios is actually on Buckingham St.

    #720473
    notjim
    Participant

    how funny! i thought harp came all the way over to amiens street and gave them all sort of false credit. so is the point that this is the council acting directly and they have more sense of organic improvement than any of these pumped up development authorities.

    #720474
    urbanisto
    Participant

    HARP and NEIC Area are both City Coucil projects,. Only the Docklands is an outside body now. Even Temple Bar has been subsumed back into the Council. I agree with your point about Georges Dock – I though it looked great last night with the Footsbarn at its centre. It seems like a waste to change it all again even before it has managed to develop. However maybe it was always seen as a difficult elemnt in the Docklands masterplan and this is just the opportunity it needed.

    Any opinion on the liberty Corner development on Foley St. I think it looks quite nice. Vastly superior to Independant House beside it. I also notice that work has finally begun on the Talbot St Foley St link scheme whihc will see a new entertainment centre and a new street. Its the site under the railway bridge for those who are unfamiliar.

    Also down this end of town…. a particularly lifeless apartment block has been unveiled at Five Lamps while the opposite corner, derelict for some time, has been demolished for the development of yet another apartment block. And guess who the tennants will be for the retail units that will conprise both developments….

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