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    • #706271
      naz78
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      If they can’t get away with it in our city, what about off the coast? Imagine Ireland’s Eye for example… full of skyscrapers, that’s if they fit, with bridges connecting the island to the mainland. I saw a clip about them planning to build a skyscraper out at sea. The same idea could work here but could be expensive. Then again people could start to complain about skyscrapers at sea even though nobody actually lives on some of these islands. Airports too have been built at sea, so if they must a new island could be built altogether. Could anyone complain about such an idea? That way Dubliner’s could still get their precious sunlight not that we get that much anyway! Just an idea anyway……

    • #727760
      Andrew Duffy
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      Just for the record, there are buildings of 26, 15 and 13 stories approved, one of 30 stories that has been awaiting a planning decision for ages, a 19 storey in Ballymun and an 18 storey in Islandbridge awaiting approval, a 19 storey in Dun Laoghire that may be put to planning soon, and a few other 12-14 storey towers awaiting decisions. None of these are exactly skyscrapers, but it does show that the moratorium on high-rise buildings in the city has come to an end.

    • #727761
      Andrew Duffy
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      Actually, the 19 storey building in Ballymun was approved a few weeks ago.

    • #727762
      WillC
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      Where are the 12-14 storey towers awaiting approval?

    • #727763
      Andrew Duffy
      Participant

      There are 12 storey apartment buildings planned for Smithfield (Haysite), Donaghmede (Grange Road) and Upper Sherrif Street; the 13 storey Smithfield Market has permission and a 14 storey tower on Barrow Street had its application withdrawn.

    • #727764
      naz78
      Participant

      where is the information being held on the buildings you talk of? i do be on skyscrapers.com a good bit and i haven’t seen any info regarding these buildings you have mentioned. how do you know about them? if there are plans to build these buildings and they go ahead, great! it’s about time. however i heard that the plans for the 30 floor tower fell through. i know about the u2 development, tara street station and sir john rogersons quay but the others??? i hope they all go ahead. ireland needs to change.

    • #727765
      Andrew Duffy
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      That site is pretty bad. If you want to find out about buildings you can look at the planning lists published online at:

      http://www.dublincity.ie/planning/main.htm
      http://www.fingalcoco.ie/PUBLIC_ATION/planlist/index.htm
      http://www.dlrcoco.ie/planning/planlist.htm
      http://www.sdcc.ie/index.aspx?pageid=144

      Also, read the news section of this site; Paul picks up pretty much every interesting article published on the Internet.

      Oh, the latest on the Southbank development with its 30 storey office tower is yet another time extension, this time until 7 July. The possibility of a national stadium on the Irish Glass Bottle site may be holding this up. I doubt a large office building would be a good idea now anyway.

    • #727766
      naz78
      Participant

      thank you for that info. i appreciate it.

      n

    • #727767
      naz78
      Participant

      hmmmmm…

      plenty of buildings planned but it makes me wonder??? if all these buildings are built in the city of dublin we will have loads of tower blocks everywhere. this is a bit of a worry. i think they should keep tower blocks all in the one area. when a load of tall buildings are beside each other they look good. the city of dublin should have a low-rise area and a high-rise area. take o’connell bridge house for example, it sticks out big time. then again it could work but i think that i would prefer it if tower blocks were all built in the one area. such an area would be the docklands. i am just concerned that these too would stick out just like o’connell bridge house. however we need skyscrapers and we need them now. if i had a choice of no skyscrapers at all or skyscrapers scattered everywhere, i would choose skyscrapers scattered everywhere. it’s better than nothing at all.

    • #727768
      d_d_dallas
      Participant

      London has no real discernable skyline – and monstrosities are thrown up everywhere – the scattered effect if you will. Chicago too. The problems here are not the scattering but the overall shit quality – which means the nicer buildings are lost in the sea of crud. I think Dublin would be best suited to emulating a city like Boston which is very rich in history and has loads of intact streetscapes from days gone by… it concentrates the majority of high rises in one area – but isn’t afaid to create mini pockets of high rise – or in certain cases a one off jewel high rise development in a sensitive area – example: hancock tower in copley plaza – the spiritual equivalent of Merrion Sq if you will. Obviously the case for high rise is examined one at a time – a route we would be wise to follow rather than a wholesale blanket ban on highrise in certain areas, while maintaining a plan for areas that should contain concentrated densities in specific areas.

      However this is shitty Ireland where everything is messed up as always – the docklands is always played as a high rise card – yet has anyone ever read the DDDA’s plans? Where exactly are these high rises supposed to be? One “landmark” development is hardly concentrating density in the docklands – it’s also faintly condescending to classify 60m as worthy of landmark status. In any case most of the docklands – both north and south have been developed already – or are ear marked for some dreary rehash of what already exists around the customhouse area. I think optimism is a bit naiive in this country – things are never really going to change – but in the next few years high rise will be paid token lip service with some god awful 60m turgidity.

    • #727769
      npvd
      Participant

      what a strange idea that is, building skyscrapers on ireland’s eye. you here something new every day!

    • #727770
      d.k
      Participant

      hi
      i just want to say that the high rise development proposed in the docklands are a joke !. averaging 2 storeys to 10 storys and an occasional tower that you could dissmiss ! A typical new regeneration of inner dublin built on the river you would think it would follow most cities with skyskrapers and high density in. what is wrong with planning certain areas of Dublin specially for a cluster of skyskrapers that we can be proud of!. i mean 120metres i am writing this some people are probaly scared shitless.

      A lot of people make exuses not to build high rise because of the georgian and other historic sites in dublin that is fine as it would be neglected but no one is planing to build a tower adjacent to merrion square or dublin castle !!!!!1, what is the problem with high rise , we are a nation of complainers and stubborn to change.

      In the future we are going to have to look at skyskrapers unless you want to sprawl into laois or carlow! or maybe extend or public transport out there!!! think?

    • #727771
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      d.k: I would reckon that in years from now there will be skyskrapers of the size you are talking about beside the pigeon house. I can see it now, the pigeon houses would be kept as a sort of monument to the past in the middle of some massive urban plaza. There would be lifts inside to take you to the top to view over the city and sea. Not too different to the Jameson chimney tower thing except a massive amount bigger! 🙂

      Originally posted by Andrew Duffy
      Just for the record, there are buildings of 26, 15 and 13 stories approved, one of 30 stories that has been awaiting a planning decision for ages, a 19 storey in Ballymun and an 18 storey in Islandbridge awaiting approval, a 19 storey in Dun Laoghire that may be put to planning soon, and a few other 12-14 storey towers awaiting decisions. None of these are exactly skyscrapers, but it does show that the moratorium on high-rise buildings in the city has come to an end.

      Andrew, do you have any other information on the 19 Storey which might seek planning in Dun Laoghaire? I assume it is not the same 18 Storey that was proposed for the Baths Site?

      Thanks

      Phil

    • #727772
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      the discussion seems to be taking place somewhere where there is a city planning concept, or somewhere where the participants think there is or could be an effective city planning concept at some point in the -near- future!
      Is this Dublin? or is it just cyberspace?

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