Shell to sea vandals

They never had much sympathy from me to begin with, but even that evaporated due to the posters and the stickers on every available lamp post in Dublin.

What’s that you say about wanting to protect the environment, lads?

I think their reasoning is probably; posters and stickers can be relatively easily removed, whereas what Shell want to do to Mayo is irreversible.

how does that reasoning justify vandalism?

easily removed by who?

by them? not likely

I must admit that I don’t mind seeing fly-posting and stickers around the city centre. It offers a welcome alternative to the various billboards and general advertising around the city centre as far as I am concerned. However, I agree with you with regards to the environmental aspect of this. There is a certain irony in the fact that their posters are often left for long periods of time without being cleared away, when their argument revolves around the protection of the environment.

I am all for flyposting and political posters, but not when it is glued in place. Most people use cable ties these days avoiding the degradation of visual amenity caused by half-scratched off poster-remains; even globalize resistance etc are good about not damaging public property. The exceptions, for some reason, are shell to sea, the anti-fur people and some pro-choice group.

@notjim wrote:

The exceptions, for some reason, are shell to sea, the anti-fur people and some pro-choice group.

Strange isn’t it? Are they becoming increasingly desperate to be listened to?

Taking it a step further, I wonder where the glue they use comes from?;)

Jaysus no!!! I was just thinking it might be interesting to find out the environmental implications of whatever glue they use

what do yous make of them spray painting “boycott shell” around the dublin and maybe other places?

…sometimes it’s important to look at the BIG picture … I see no harm in some half scrapped off posters. The world will not collapse in on itself because of this, it is also extremely petty to pick up on such small issues as to ‘if they’re for the environment why are they doing this to the environment?’ .

What happened / is happening in mayo is much more important and I find it difficult to believe that people will place aesthetics before ethics

but it is not ethical to deface public property. they haven’t been denied access to the usual channels for communicating their protest, arguably up to and including gluing posters to temporary hoardings and cable tying posters on cardboard to lamp posts, why do they feel entitled to vandalize the visual amenity of the public realm? one of their posters says “we are irish citizen . . . etc”, i find that galling since they are using these posters to damage public property.

There may not be sufficient temporary hoardings in the busier parts of the city; cable tying posterboards would be more desirable (not to mention more effective), but I imagine it’s more expensive.

A lot of the time also, the cable ties get left behind. After the recent General Election I saw a telephone post with 5/6 cable ties bundled up around the mid-section.

sure, but they are easier dealt with than a glued poster: ideally campaigns like this would go around afterwards and cut down the cable ties.

@notjim wrote:

They certainly lost any sympathy I had for them when they started gluing posters to public property. Wankers.

Yeah I agree – let’s hang the bastards

Look at this – I photoed it earlier on Molesworth St]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w108/hutton001/PICT0408.jpg[/IMG]

And a better view of this in context can be seen here –

OMG 😮 …What’s that other bit of sticky litter? Hmmm, a closer view reveals this –

Sticky litter by that well-known pro-business magazine, Magill! So the Capitalist Running Dogs are at this as well as the Left-wing Pinkos!

If the truth be told, this is not the first time that I have seen Magill stickers adorning street furniture – I have seen them around the place for at least the last 18 months. Magill is a private venture with a commercial agenda; whatever excuse there might be for a not-for-profit campaign, there is absolutely no excuse for a supposedly professional outfit. Has Magill been fined – now there’s the question 😉

In any event, if notjim or any of the rest of you feel strongly enough about this, feel free to contact their editor, Eamon Delaney, at editor@magill.ie – you can even pass on huttons regards 😀

agreed, that’s pretty shocking.