seconds out – round two for Gordon Murray and Alan Dunlop in Sligo
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http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/sligo/sligo/doherty.html
Admitted defeat, can’t make it work after all. Two days travelling to Sligo for twenty minute meeting with the planners and told that it was my drawings that were the problem………not informative enough.
“Maybe our client could make model, come back after the elections”?
Sorry lads and thank you all for your kind words. 🙂
…………well most of you.
Think I’ll try to crack New York instead, Hey Paul how’s the weather in Canada?
I think that’s an awful shame. It really pisses me off when you see some of the stuff built as infill in Irish country towns. For example Monaghan is desperate for really bad quality buildings which supposedly follow the roofscapes or window line but in reality are huge and clumsy. I liked this scheme for Sligo….
Also I cannot see how these drawings lack information…. Basically the Sligo councillors lack a spine between the lot of them and do not want to rock the boat by giving permission when they could lose their cosy seats….
Seeing as its so close to the townhall, he should find a tenant for Teeling House who wants to open a Sex Shop… that would really bring up the tone of the street – bright pink signage, maybe a flashing phallus shaped sign….
“Sorry, but as we had invested money in the site, we need to recoup our losses. Sexy Inc were looking for a shop site in Sligo and naturally they wanted to be based close to the centre of political power. We couldn’t refuse their money. “
Jaypers,…that scheme looks good AlanD. I don’t know why the Sligo clique can be so pedantic. Definitely a case of visual illiteracy on the councillors behalf.
Too good a design to give up on,
Have another go
have you gotten paid, that’s what i wanna know…;)
just wait a few months and you’ll see some bogshite engineer will throw in planning for some semi-d half-assed conservation and retention effort with an awful layout, and the feckin planners will lap it up
sw101 yes we’ve been paid for work to date, thanks for your concern.
Diaspora, don’t rub it in mate. If An Taisce had not argued so blindly yet so ignorantly in my view the local politicians would have agreed , we would have consent and would have started on site.
We know and our client also knows that if we were succesful and did get Teeling House off the register of protected structures, An Taisce would appeal and it would go to an bord pleanola and that would add another year on to the process.
The whole system is crazy, the planners and politicians play for time by not giving guidance and our client goes bankrupt or gives in.
Make a model, indeed. What bullshit.
D’you know LOB, I was sitting behind a feckin tractor on Tuesday for an hour on route to Belfast Airport , my backside nipping, frustration building wondering what the hell I was doing in Ireland after 18 months and having to listen to gobbledegook.
Reading the comments above it occured to me that I really like the Irish.
Thanks lads you’ve made my day.
………..can’t make the project stack up financially without the new building Fin and keep the quality, of design and materials.
Tried, tried, tried and tried again, just can’t do it.
visually illiterate planners, almost backward looking with little understanding of what adds to and enhances the quality of the built enviornment and the larger communitiy.
great scheme.
If at first…. Gordon Murray and Alan Dunlop back into Sligo Archiseek.com
After a previous refusal and controversy, Gordon Murray and Alan Dunlop have submitted a new planning application for a site on Old Teeling Street, Sligo. The proposal, for local developer Louis Doherty, is for a mixed residential and commercial development, next to the Court House Building. The architects have been working on proposals for the same site for three years and it has been an exhausting process. “This project would provide a successful case study into the difficulties of getting planning permission in Ireland” says Alan Dunlop “our first scheme was very well received by the Council, but we proposed the removal of a building next to the courthouse which had some historic interest. The whole thing got caught up in the current debate in Ireland about the protection of historic structures and dragged on and on, until we twice had to withdraw.”
Good luck with it Alan, I hope you have one that will get through this time.
Diaspora & Thomond Park
Sorry Diaspora and Thomond Park, I missed this over Christmas and Ocean FM has just telephoned me to ask about it.
Thank you . I really appreciate it your comment. Fingers crossed.
I missed this first (second? third?) time around- looks like a promising scheme.
Two quick questions-
Does the revised proposal now incorporate the protected structure?
Was it the councillors rather than the planners that scuppered it the last time? (One of my pet annoyances is the involvement of councillors in conservation in Ireland.)two quick answers.
Yes it incorporates the protected structure.
Events dear boy, events scuppered the schemes. Got caught up in a lot of things happeninging at the same time in Ireland. Protected Structures. National Elections, Local Politics. Debate over Planning Policy. Rural Homes. An Taisce. Scottish Architects being inexperienced in how the planning system worked in Ireland.
That kind of thing
@alan d wrote:
two quick answers.
Yes it incorporates the protected structure.
Events dear boy, events scuppered the schemes. Got caught up in a lot of things happeninging at the same time in Ireland. Protected Structures. National Elections, Local Politics. Debate over Planning Policy. Rural Homes. An Taisce. Scottish Architects being inexperienced in how the planning system worked in Ireland.
That kind of thing
….. how the planning system worked in Ireland.
didn’t know it worked!!:)
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