Sandyford developments

Some nice developments,hate to hazard a guess of how many will proceed in current climate,most likely v few.

Top row of pictures – I believe the far right one was refused, it is the same building in the bottom row of pictures -also the far right picture

The large middle picture is built already

The large building with hollow centre section was refused

In the middle picture in the second last row the large group of apartments in the foreground are proceeding very well, they dominate the sandyford sky heading along the m50 northbound and they can be seen high over the leopardstown racecourse grandstand.
No cladding or anything them yet though so we’ll have to see what they will look like when finished.

Beacon quarter- development near completion or complete?
The sentinel 14 storey office- under construction http://www.thesentinel.ie
Vantage apartments 17 storey apartments- under construction http://www.vantageapartments.ie
Timeplace apartments 9 storey apartments- under construction http://www.timeplace.ie
Allergro site-under construction http://www.hkr.ie
One sandyford east- planning permission??
One sandyford west- planning permission?? 2 massive developments designed by http://www.hkr.ie
The forum- complete??

Unfortunately from what i’ve seen driving around out there there isn’t much of an urban feel to the area. (might get a better idea on foot or bicycle) The landscaping and ground floor treatments are all very business park esque. Lots of gimmicky grass mounds, ventilation shafts, shiny polished stone ramps and barriers, glass and the usual office/industrial park trees and shrubs. Nothing seems to be getting tied together with an urban feel, just the usual disjointed seperate developments with teletubby land in between. Maybe it’ll all change in the future!!?

The large building with hollow centre section was refused

Bast**ds, its beautiful… where exactly was this?

@ihateawake wrote:

Bast**ds, its beautiful… where exactly was this?

Proposal by traynor o toole architects http://www.totarch.ie (takes a while to load). The rest of proposal looks brilliant but extreme high density proposal, i’d say they would reapply for planning permission in a revised scheme. Its called the sandyford gateway.There also developing other key sites in the city, AIB hq at north wall quay, tallaght new town centre:D:D

more pics of allergro/rockbrook site http://www.southcentral.ie

You have to remember there is now an infrastructure deficit for Sandyford which has put the brakes on new developments for the immediate future.

@Paul Clerkin wrote:

You have to remember there is now an infrastructure deficit for Sandyford which has put the brakes on new developments for the immediate future.

Spot on. This was actually referenced on RTE1 TV last night on “Future Shock”, with regard to the lack of water available; I suspect this too for sewage facilities in the area, and also in the Dun Laoghaire area.

Moreover the looney Luas is now obvious for the folly it is, i.e. tram capacity at >20,000 per day as opposed to DART which handles about 40,000; note the daftness of already people at Dundrum traveling back to Sandyford in order to get a seat for the ride into town. Absolute madness – and was totally predictable, by me and others; well the emperor’s new suit is now self-evident for what it is; an over-priced under-capacity folly which only went half the distance as the original Harcourt Street railway to Bray… come to think of it, had the pre-1958 line been left in place simply as was, it had more capacity. 😡

Finally I agree with Bago as to the “lack of an urban feel”; where was the vision of a new town centre? Oh I forgot there was none, and Treasury et al simply threw up what they could, where they could, when they could. Wonderful.

@Paul Clerkin wrote:

You have to remember there is now an infrastructure deficit for Sandyford which has put the brakes on new developments for the immediate future.

Yea i heard that alright. So do you how long are the delays in infrastucture?? weeks,months or years?? 😮

Number one Central Park (under construction), development by treasury holdings beside vantage apartments.

@johnny21 wrote:

Yea i heard that alright. So do you how long are the delays in infrastucture?? weeks,months or years?? 😮

Years I would say. No sewerage means no development

Did the council not predict that sandyford would undergo intense development?? Why did it take them so long to get the finger out!!!!? Or could they not keep up with developments!!?! They have plenty of money from the development fees they received, just the type of slow reaction we all expect from councils! :mad::mad:

@Bago wrote:

Unfortunately from what i’ve seen driving around out there there isn’t much of an urban feel to the area. (might get a better idea on foot or bicycle) The landscaping and ground floor treatments are all very business park esque. Lots of gimmicky grass mounds, ventilation shafts, shiny polished stone ramps and barriers, glass and the usual office/industrial park trees and shrubs. Nothing seems to be getting tied together with an urban feel, just the usual disjointed seperate developments with teletubby land in between. Maybe it’ll all change in the future!!?

Yes what a horrible place this is, devoid of anything resembling an urban feel, no life on the streets whatsoever, it would have been nice if the place was actually built around the luas, with streets of apartment buildings and offices radiating off a central avenue.

Vantage apartments, Central park, sandyford. Under construction. Architects hj lyons and developer lalco. Due to be complete in 2009. http://www.vantageapartments.ie http://www.lalco.ie

@johnny21 wrote:

Did the council not predict that sandyford would undergo intense development?? Why did it take them so long to get the finger out!!!!? Or could they not keep up with developments!!?! They have plenty of money from the development fees they received, just the type of slow reaction we all expect from councils! :mad::mad:

No, DLRCC granted permission will-nillie for residential developments in an industrial estate and then got caught by surprise. Funnily enough, taking huge amounts of money from developers in fees and rates, and investing nothing in infrastructure isn’t the most sustainable plan for future development.

DLRCC’s idea of managing the Sandyford Industrial Estate is hilarious. They have introduced pay parking in most of the estate, but refuse to ticket construction vehicles left overnight on double yellow lines, clearways and pavements. They actually told me (in writing) that it’s OK for construction traffic to park on yellow lines as it’s commercial traffic.

And I wouldn’t advise checking out the feel of the street by bicycle unless you want to visit the inside of Beacon Hospital – there are no bus lanes or enforcement of traffic laws in Sandyford. It’s like the wild west.

If anyone wants to see how an area develops when the local authority looses interest, do pop along to Sandyford and have a wander around. Just for Christ’s sake don’t by an apartment out here.

Sandyford Industrial Estate looks like the start of Terminator – a decrepit urban wasteland of concrete shells and piles upon piles of metal vehicles. I was there yesterday and saw some poor oul cyclist – it looked a nightmare (from behind the smug wheel of a car)

The reason residential was allowed into Sandyford was because the Council, in 2004, wouldn’t zone enough land for housing, so the Executive was left with no choice…I think it will come good with a local plan that includes parks, public facilities as well as high density development.

@alonso wrote:

Sandyford Industrial Estate looks like the start of Terminator – a decrepit urban wasteland of concrete shells and piles upon piles of metal vehicles. I was there yesterday and saw some poor oul cyclist – it looked a nightmare (from behind the smug wheel of a car)

It’s not a great place for pedestrians either. The traffic lights at the Sandyford Luas stop are nowhere near where people naturally cross and force you to cross a 2 lane road in two stages. The are only two sets of pedestrian lights on the main ring road, none of the side streets off that ring road have traffic lights, amber lights or pedestrian crossing road markings – the only way to cross the side streets (which are 3 lanes wide) is to run and hope you make it. Footpaths and cycle lanes regularly disappear to make way for builders (especially around BSQ). On more than one occasion, people are left to walk in the middle of the road (no cordons, signs or protection from the builders vehicles) because building work or underground services work was being done. Total disaster.

If I was a developer who’d bought tracts of land and then had my planning permission refused because the council messed up, I’d be fairly annoyed.

@SunnyDub wrote:

I think it will come good with a local plan that includes parks, public facilities as well as high density development.

And do you believe DLRCC has any intention of including any of these? There is no sign of them in any of the recent additions to the landscape.

@johnny21 wrote:

Theres are so many developments going on in the sandyford area im lost. Whats going ahead and whats canceled??:confused: I have a few renders and pics of developments. I know a few are going ahead but dont know about the rest.

HI there, I am currently doing a study on the Sandyford Industrial Estate and its development over the past apx10years. Can you recommend any source that you have found useful to date? I want to look at literature/journals relating to the history and development of the estate. Any comments/help will be gratefully appreciated. Thanks, Loulou

Your best bet would be to contact SEBA – Sandyford Estate Business Association

sbea [sbeassoc@eircom.net]

@loulou wrote:

HI there, I am currently doing a study on the Sandyford Industrial Estate and its development over the past apx10years. Can you recommend any source that you have found useful to date? I want to look at literature/journals relating to the history and development of the estate. Any comments/help will be gratefully appreciated. Thanks, Loulou

Hi loulou,i mainly googled for images and websites which i think is the best way on finding info for a certain area, but if i can help you finding a certain development or a bit of history, it be no problem.

Contact Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County Council and also look at their various development plans going back over the last few years. Also, a planning search on the area will give you more information. This can then give you an idea of the respective planners who made decisions within the area, who can then be contacted for more information, and so on.