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      GrahamH
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      I’ve been meaning to post this for ages.

      I bow my head in shame, I was watching bits of ‘Your a Star’ a number of weeks ago, observing where the participants lived, their houses, interiors etc, and it appears that this entire country is living in 1987.

      Really, everybody’s houses, regardless of middle class suburbia or otherwise, are the most horrible, nasty, utterly bland and banal structures concievable. And its not just the terrible designs of the 70s & 80s, but the newest of houses were equally bad, ghastly ‘Georgian’ uPVC windows, disproportinate roofs and chimneys, naff plastic guttering and downpipes, horrendous windswept gravelled gardens, laughable ‘Palladian’ porticos, ‘decorative’ brickwork, terrible mock Victorian lanterns….

      And the interiors, pathetic coving & ceiling roses, ludicrous ‘chandaliers’, dado rails, picture rails, horrible PVC conservatories with naff little plastic arches between the panes…It goes on and on…

      It is so unfortunate that we cannot move forward, take on new architectural forms inside and out, remodel/build homes that suit modern living, and forget pastiche. Also not least because of the insult all of this crap is to proper/standard Georgian/Victorian architecture, the windows of which were perfectly proportioned, carving/plastering exquisitly excecuted, and buildings correctly scaled and balanced.

      Ireland is stuck in a time warp and needs to move on, whilst respecting the ideals of times past.

    • #724785
      CiaranO
      Participant

      I blame the architects:)

    • #724786
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Well there is no encouragement for people to commission architects.

      November 06 1999 : More spending on homes design urged by RIAI
      The Irish Independent

      The average ‘spend’ on design for many speculative housing estates around the country is a mere £400 per house about the cost of a decent washing machine, according to a leading architect. ‘This is incredible and no longer acceptable,’ Royal Institute of the Architects of Ireland president Eoin O Cofaigh told a major seminar in Dublin yesterday.

      Addressing an RIAI/Irish Planning Institute seminar on Sustainable Development, Mr O Cofaigh said that higher density will need more design and better design if it is not to be a total disaster.

      ‘Good design should be rewarded, and bad design should not be allowed through the system,’ he declared. ‘At the moment, the planning system is unfortunately neutral too often as regards quality and the planners working in development control in our local authorities are over-worked.’

    • #724787
      CiaranO
      Participant

      any indication that people will buy in great numbers archtiecture that is that little bit more adventurous?

      Is it a worn out question that the developers have to plan safe, not to be sorry, or is it the case that in this day and age there is no excuse for bad design?

      I know Id prefer a griffner haus than one of the monstrosities here in Tallaght but if theyre not built people have to make do with what is made available at their price level. And that is becoming increasingly restrictive.

      Has there ever been a housing development (onb a large scale) controlled by a group of architects and not developers, who will cut and trim?

      C.

    • #724788
      sherrioverseas
      Participant

      You’ve left me feeling a little queasy after reading all that. At least the American “my garage is the most prominent feature of the front of my new home” hasn’t taken over. I don’t care if it’s functional. We’ve got vast subdivisions of garage doors.

      Except in my lovely old neighborhood. 🙂

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