Point Village
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@Bago wrote:
Didn’t crosbie say he was building it on primtime. Didn’t want to lose his bet with Bono!
yes he did.
@d_d_dallas wrote:
unless montenotte has suddenly moved to Dublin Port, that ain’t the watchtower 😉
The residents committee wouldn’t be happy with that!
well done detective reddy 😉 wasn’t too hard really. all you needed to do was look at my other post to point you in the right direction 🙂
ha ha! Was accidental actually! I was looking at the Elysian thread and someone called the tower ugly – said I’d have a look on Flickr to make up my mind and what came up first…?!
@reddy wrote:
ha ha! Was accidental actually! I was looking at the Elysian thread and someone called the tower ugly – said I’d have a look on Flickr to make up my mind and what came up first…?!
Always remember to credit any pics you upload here – Ideally you would have [IMG]ed the image directly from Flickr with a link to Donncha´s account. Fair is fair. 🙂
@cgcsb wrote:
so has the tower been officially cancelled? if not, it’s prob only a matter of time 🙁 so sad
I wouldn’t say cancelled but definitely delayed.
But for how long?nobody knows.
if so, I’ll be really upset. Poor aul Dublin has nothing to show for it’s years of success. Maybe next time around though
Today’s indo outlining the dispute between Dunnes and Harry Crosbie. It seems that Dunnes have been trying to delay/pull out of this deal since last Summer. Pure speculation, but I would guess this is why progress on the Tower stopped shortly afterwards…
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/dunnes-owe-me-836423m-claims-crosbie-1624960.html
Personally, I think the Point Village is taking shape nicely. I have reservations about the exterior design of the Point/O2 itself. Overall, Crosbie was v brave with this development. He will need a concentration of retailers in there if it has any hope of it being a success. The Luas well help a lot but driving there is going to be a nightmare – particularly when concerts are on…
D.S. Why would anyone want to drive there when a major event is on? You can occasionally be surgically separated from your car.
@D.S. wrote:
Today’s indo outlining the dispute between Dunnes and Harry Crosbie. It seems that Dunnes have been trying to delay/pull out of this deal since last Summer. Pure speculation, but I would guess this is why progress on the Tower stopped shortly afterwards…
The tower’s not part of the shopping centre. It’s been delayed to allow a new planning application be lodged. I’ve been told that by Crosbie’s advisers so presume it’s true.
@johnglas wrote:
D.S. Why would anyone want to drive there when a major event is on? You can occasionally be surgically separated from your car.
That’s my point. You won’t want to drive there when a concert is on. Given that fact, then late night shopping and cinema’s/bars etc would be impacted. Concerts often open doors at 6:30 and earlier at weekends.
Only mentioning the above given the context of Dunnes Stores about face. Obviously, in the current climate they are concerned about pouring money into a new store when the retail sector is down, but also into a new store where development in the surrounding area is lagging. Personally, I would be concerned if I were Dunnes Stores if punters weren’t willing to drive there.
Yes people can be surgically seperated from their car John on occasion, but given the nature of the Homeware business Dunnes were pushing for this development, it’s not the kind of goods you would be willing to carry in bulk half way across town on a luas or otherwise. Typically food stores/homeware stores actually do require a significant portion of the clientele to drive there.
@jdivision wrote:
The tower’s not part of the shopping centre. It’s been delayed to allow a new planning application be lodged. I’ve been told that by Crosbie’s advisers so presume it’s true.
I heard this also. Pure speculation but I was purely wondering whether the comment in the article referring to Crosbie needing the money to fund other parts of the development actually referred to the tower? I don’t know and have no concrete info to support that view other than the inference in the article.
8 Febuary 2009
Businessman Harry Crosbie is in negotiations with the Dublin Docklands Development Authority (DDDA) about altering the use of his proposed 120-metre skyscraper in Dublin.
Crosbie is asking the DDDA to allow him to develop part of the proposed Watchtower for offices and commercial use, rather than for apartments as originally planned. The request comes as a result of the decline in the residential property market.
The 40-storey tower is the centrepiece of Crosbie’s Point Village, a €850 million urban regeneration scheme on a 12acre site beside the O2 music venue. A spokesman for Crosbie last week rejected previous reports that the tower would be delayed.
However, he said that the Watchtower was now likely to be ‘‘refocused’’ from residential to commercial use. The alteration requires the permission of the DDDA, and the spokesman said that negotiations were ongoing about the proposed changes.
The DDDA had intended that the Watchtower would form one-half of a ‘‘maritime gateway’’ to Dublin, standing across the river Liffey from the planned U2Tower. However, the U2-backed project was put on hold for at least a year last October.
Last week, Crosbie claimed that the financing of the Point Village was being jeopardised by the failure of Dunnes Stores to complete an agreement to become anchor tenant at the project. He is seeking an order requiring Dunnes to pay €23 million allegedly due under the agreement. The case has been sent to arbitration.
Sunday Business Post
wow this is just a never ending story:mad:
Irish Times
Bright ideas sought for docklands civic space
DOES HARRY CROSBIE think things are going to turn militant? Even political rallies are to be catered for in the new “civic and public space” being planned by Crosbie for a site behind the O2 Arena (formerly the Point Theatre) in Dublin’s docklands.
A design competition is being organised in collaboration with the RIAI for the space, which is to host “free rock, jazz and trad shows as well as drama, monster céilÃs and dances, political rallies and events of every kind, including a large weekly produce market”.
According to Crosbie, Dublin city planners are “hugely enthusiastic” about the proposals, which may also include a “giant fireplace” for children to sit around in winter – though no doubt the public liability implications of such an attraction will have to be considered.
The irrepressible impresario is convinced that, in these deeply recessionary times, people want more entertainment to take their minds off the bleak news of banking crises, job losses and the property collapse – which is why bookings at the O2 are so strong.
However, one of the casualties of the recession is Crosbie’s plan to build a 40-storey tower at the Point, designed by Scott Tallon Walker; it has been put on hold. Also in grave doubt is Dunnes Stores’ original plan to become the anchor tenant for the Point Village.
Please tell me this isnt true:mad::mad::mad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfIyG4TiJ8M
Video featuring the tower and other elements.
Ahhh, so pretty 😮
Too bad the the only thing to differentiate the tower site from tarmac is a series of yellow poles placed around the the perimeter…
Also, the bears found a new home, where were they before, I cant remember.
You can walk through most of the site now, I think its allowed:confused:
Sorry for the crap skills and tools.
/edit… Across the river.
I think we have finally witnessed the death of the watchtower “sniff”
Its a GD shame as it looked so good in that vid
crisis averted
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