June 29, 2005 at 12:13 pm #707942AnonymousInactive
I have just finished my Leaving Cert. recently and I’m keen to study architecture. Unfortunatly I didn’t get past the aptitude test in Bolton Street and 535 is possibly out of my points range in UCD. I heard only recently that Limerick were setting up a course but I’m not sure if finances would allow me to go there. Some one told me that if I was to do Structural engineering that I would have the potentail to go into architecture is there any truth in this ?.
The closing date for CAO change of mind is Friday so I have to make my mind up soon. The courses I refer to in particular are “Structural Engineering with Architecture” UCD and “Structural, Civil and Environmental Engineering” TCD. If I were to attain either of these qualifications could I move to postgraduet level or would I still have to do a primary degree in architecture?
If the latter is the case would I even get any exemptions?
If anyone has any other suggestions I would love to hear them.
June 29, 2005 at 4:44 pm #757415AnonymousInactive
Is there anyone that can give me any advice. :confused:
June 29, 2005 at 5:05 pm #757416modular manParticipant
I do know architects who have backgrounds in engineering but all, without exception, had to study architecture from scratch after they finished engineering. As has been said before on these threads, there is only one way to become an architect and that is to study architecture for five years.
Donâ€™t write off Limerick as there are maintenance grants available from all county councils and you could work part time. You could move to a Dublin University after third year when part time work becomes more difficult to sustain (due to a heavier workload in fourth and fifth year) and I expect Limerick to run a very interesting course with the involvement of Meritt Bucholz (sp?).
As for the other courses you mentioned, you would get to work alongside architects and perhaps be allowed a degree of design input (especially with regards to environmental design) however this would be limited and also very dependant on your own attitude towards your work.
As for failing the Bolton Street exam, I would not be to worried. Half my class in UCD (including myself) failed and I would say it is no indication that you would not make a good architect.
June 29, 2005 at 5:24 pm #757417
one way to do it is to do the diplome course in architectural technology in UCD or DIT. it’s a 3 year course and afterwards you would be qualified to be an architectural technologist/technician, and would be able to work in most practises with emphasis on detail work and drawing preparation rather than design.
with the diploma in technology, assuming you get an honour and pass an interview within the college, it is possible to go straight into 2nd year of the architecture degree course. this would mean 4 more years in the degree course, 7 years in total, rather than the usual 5 to become a qualified architect.
i know a couple of people who have used this route and they are eminently employable, with a grounding in structure and detail, and further education in design and conceptual work.
the points are a bit lower for the diploma course. less than 400 in cork i.t, probably the same in dublin, check with the CAO.
best of luck with it.
June 29, 2005 at 5:59 pm #757418
June 30, 2005 at 12:13 am #757419AnonymousInactive
Thanks for the advice guys, its most helpfull. But even if I do put UL as my second choice I may still not get it. For this reason, on another thought, I was wondering with the advent of modularisation, would it be better to do Arts in UCD with elective modules in Architecture, than to do structural engineering.
I accept that there isn’t a back door into architecture but owing to our cruel and ineffective points system I must apply for something apart from UCD and UL so what would be the best spring board into architecture.
June 30, 2005 at 1:04 am #757420
you could do a preparatory portfolio course somewhere and reapply through the CAO next year. with the extra experience and maturity you should fly through the aptitude test and interview for DIT, either for the diploma as a start, or straight into the degree programme. i know that 430 points could get you in to the degree, so long as you do well in the other parts of the application process.
another option is repeating the leaving cert and concentrating all your efforts on your top 6 subjects to try and get the high points required for UCD. maybe bruce college or the institute on leeson street.
how many points do you expect to get this year?
June 30, 2005 at 10:39 am #757421LottsParticipant
:rolleyes: Or you could just call yourself an architect, print some nice business cards, put up a plaque on the door and start working – skip all that studying nonsense
June 30, 2005 at 2:50 pm #757422AnonymousInactive
I see your point Lotts, we just have to look at David Grant(Remember the Prime Time guy) and his “higher diploma in navel architecture” to see your point proven.
June 30, 2005 at 3:15 pm #757423
i think it was “navel architecture”.
June 30, 2005 at 3:21 pm #757424JPDParticipant
Giving a new meaning to the term plastic model
June 30, 2005 at 3:46 pm #757425AnonymousInactive
Right you are sw101. Sorry for the poor spelling consider it corrected. Although it is said that many architects have dylexia. So I’ll take it as a good sign.
June 30, 2005 at 5:28 pm #757426
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