Lansdowne Road Stadium
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@Peter Fitz wrote:
This ! not sure what ofjames is on about, in fairness it can’t be described as dull and boring as stadiums go.
No I think you are mistaken, If you check the photo’s on the LRSDC website you will see that the stadium that is actually being built corresponds to the model depicted in the second image in my post and not the initial model you have shown above (the one with the glass shell)
@ofjames wrote:
No I think you are mistaken, If you check the photo’s on the LRSDC website you will see that the stadium that is actually being built corresponds to the model depicted in the second image in my post and not the initial model you have shown above (the one with the glass shell)
All of the CG images on LRSDC & Aviva Stadium websites show the glass one, as did the FAI TV advertisement. I think that small picture is an older version of the stadium. I’m positive that picture is a render of the old version.
This is what’s being built, they just haven’t put up the glass yet.
All you have to do is look at the size of each end. That older render has 2 tall sides, 2 short. the new one Has 2 tall, 1 medium, 1 small. Just like the ocnstructions pics.
CraigFay: you’re making a good case, but I’m still convinced that the ‘glass’ cover will go above and be separate from the side cladding, meaning the render you showed will not be accurate. (In my opinion, this new articulation will be an improvement and a move away from ‘blobby’ architecture.)
Apparently the translucent skin will be “polycarbonate” – from the construction images it’s hard to see how a secondary structure to hold it proud of the glazed facade could work – surely structural struts would have to be sticking out well beyond the glazing by this stage. I’d also worry that it could end up looking very busy – the renders always show the translucent skin miraculously hovering with very little structure shown. The reality is bound to be less elegant.
Will be interesting to see how it turns out! Looking very impressive already. I do think it’s a crying shame that there will be so few people accommodated at the northern end – from the renders it only looks like about 10 rows of seats. I hope it doesnt cause the atmospherr e to suffer too much but its bound to have an effect.
just re the ‘Capital D’ profile thing … the guy from STW was making a virtue of the fact that the curvilinear design will allow as many as possible a view of the pitch from the half way line or thereabouts – generally considered the best spot to view any match from. I’d like to think that he wouldn’t be making such a deal of it if previous claims that the overarching canopy would disrupt a view of the entire pitch from those seated up in the gods were true.
Indeed, that 2nd smaller image of the stadium that Ofjames is on about is the original proposal which was modified to the sexier glass shell proposal as shown above in the superb renders. I hope the finished structure will look just like it.
I’m still with BTH – there’s no structure to support a ‘floating’ canopy, so it will have to be confined more or less within the outer edge shown in the last of CraigFay’s pics. Either way, it’s quite a statement.
Here are some images of the stadium from various locations today.
Wow, you can see from the shots that it’s taking on that sexy shape.
Here’s some more from their site….
@CraigFay wrote:
All you have to do is look at the size of each end. That older render has 2 tall sides, 2 short. the new one Has 2 tall, 1 medium, 1 small. Just like the ocnstructions pics.
What’s that big white cuboid thing in the middle of the stadium? It looks like a massive tent.
@johnglas wrote:
I’m still with BTH – there’s no structure to support a ‘floating’ canopy, so it will have to be confined more or less within the outer edge shown in the last of CraigFay’s pics. Either way, it’s quite a statement.
the support structure for the Polycarbonate skin can be seen in this picture.
5 ribs extend from the roof out around the glass that has already been fitted. These ribs will continue around the whole structure to create the blob shape.http://www.flickr.com/photos/39454894@N02/3630808642/sizes/l
And there was me thinking that the stadium had escaped that awful fate… And the point of making it blobby is…? What the rationale is for making something coherent and legible into something incoherent and illegible escapes me – architecture in crisis in more ways than one.
@Goofy wrote:
the support structure for the Polycarbonate skin can be seen in this picture.
5 ribs extend from the roof out around the glass that has already been fitted. These ribs will continue around the whole structure to create the blob shape.Here’s the start of the skin going up (from their own site).
Sections of the roof are going on now.
what do people think about the lower northern end? Would it ever be possible for it to be expanded to match the southern end? This would probably add 10,000 seats to the stadium. If the houses to the immediate north were bought out would they have to be demolished to make room or is there enough space within the site to build upwards?
Sorry about all the questions but I think in the coming years there will be many questions asked about the capacity of Lansdowne Road as it is too small for 6nations rugby in my opinion
@niall murphy wrote:
what do people think about the lower northern end? Would it ever be possible for it to be expanded to match the southern end? This would probably add 10,000 seats to the stadium. If the houses to the immediate north were bought out would they have to be demolished to make room or is there enough space within the site to build upwards?
Sorry about all the questions but I think in the coming years there will be many questions asked about the capacity of Lansdowne Road as it is too small for 6nations rugby in my opinion
I agree especially if the success of Irish rugby continues.
I think its ridiculious to move Irish rugby to a smaller stadium when we have seen time and again that they are very capable of filling Croke park. I’m sure in the future it will have to be addressed, but as always in this country we never build for the future, and its going to be a costly mistake!
these latest photo’s (last 2 of the selection) seem to confirm that the roof is going to interfere terribly with the view of anyone sitting on the top tier. what a bunch of retards that they couldnt do better than this. really annoys me. i’ve sat in the quadrants at old trafford several times and from that experience i can testify that having half your view dominated by corrugated plastic and metal beams is just a pain in the arse.
The big irony is this: The stadium at Abbotstown was costed at 350 million (iirc).
That was shot down due to politics (Mary Harney and Pat Rabbite I’m looking at you)
This stadium is costing approx 300 million.
Maybe the solution will be in 10 years when the Aviva contract runs out and Croke Pk can be used for big games.@marmajam wrote:
The big irony is this: The stadium at Abbotstown was costed at 350 million (iirc).
The Abbotstown idea was daft. Nobody thinks green-field, car accessible, out-of-town stadia are a good idea these days; even the Americans realised this 10 years or more ago. Except Bertie of course, who I guess being a socialist wanted to leave a 70s Eastern block style monument to himself.
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