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    • #705605
      Andrew Duffy
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      http://www.unison.ie/stories.php3?ca=9&si=20131&breakingnews=1. This should please a lot of people. I’m indifferent myself.

    • #720197
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Pretty indifferent myself

    • #720198
      Papworth
      Participant

      A most sensible result for the oldest and most historic district in the city. Well done The Friends of Kilmainham, An Taisce, Irish Georgian Society, History Group of the Teachers of Ireland, Irish Labour Party, Fine Gael, Sinn Fein, Michael Mulcahy recent Lord Mayor of Dublin and many more who spoke / presented a submission at the Oral Hearing. Kilmainham has been saved from Iowa Barns.

    • #720199
      GregF
      Participant

      ……..I heard through the grapevine that an 8 storey hotel and leisure complex is now planned for the site after the planners have revised their scheme……Developed by the same people who are responsible for the Four Season’s hotel in Ballsbridge….. it will include nearly up to 1000 hotel rooms, including restaurants, casino, leisure centre, gymnasium, swimming pool, sauna etc…and a Dr. Quirkeys/Disneyland style funderland……. based on a 1916 theme.
      More appropriate no doubt for the area.

    • #720200
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Lol – would serve them right…..

    • #720201
      -Donnacha-
      Participant

      I heard they’re going to build a chocolate factory there – Can you imagine a chocolate factory opposite one of our greatest heritage sites? Its madness, even an office block would be better than that.

    • #720202
      GregF
      Participant

      …….probably will end up being a derelict site for the next ten years or more.

    • #720203
      Simon
      Participant

      Better than 3 crap hospital or ocean liner looking office blocks for the next 100 years, thank God this so greedy sheme hit an iceberg. Greg F.. you try way too hard at been one of the lads!! and at being an expert on everyone and everything.

    • #720204
      GregF
      Participant

      ……….you mean to say that it is better to have a derelict site than any sort of development………..your naivity shows.
      You have implied that it is far more preferable to leave the site as it is…… derelict and an eyesore…. than have any sort of development that would bring life and money into the area.
      Sounds as if your talking through your arse.

    • #720205
      LOB
      Participant

      now lads!
      I want a fair fight
      no grabbing or biting
      & definitely no handbags

    • #720206
      notjim
      Participant

      so i saw in the paper during the week that the opw is thinking of selling off the unused land attached to the royal hospital. seems short sighted, i always assumed that they were saving it for another imma, cool, building in the far future when the collection outgrows the royal hospital. will the local residents association go the the mattress on this one too or will the be happy now they have stopped the offices opposite the gaol.

    • #720207
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Now when was the government ever far-sighted in this country?

    • #720208
      ro_G
      Participant

      i’m presuming any planning permission that will block the view across the liffey from the gardens will be kiboshed though

    • #720209
      Papworth
      Participant

      Only if people are indifferent and allow it to happen….it gets better… now the magnificient ancient sence of containment that exists in the enclosed and so well maintained grounds of Kilmainham… this most unique open space/ inner city grounds and setting of Kilmainham and The Royal Hospital are for sale!! My word people would not be indifferent to this short and so blind prospect in any other European Capital City and right smack in its most ancient and historical district.

    • #720210
      GregF
      Participant

      I bet they’ll build appartments there ……cramped and red brick and reeking of retro fantasy……..a big eyesore no doubt…..aka Blot on the Landscape, and to think IM Pei could have put a pyramid there……. We’ll just get a run of the mill over priced appartment scheme……for people who think they understand and like the modern arts……helping finance mismanager bogger Charlie McCreevy to pay off the national debts……where’s John Callery again to save the day and rile everyone up.

    • #720211
      Simon
      Participant

      This is truly shocking……….. I thought and assumed these grounds were no-go…..its ours and not theirs (DUCHAS and OPW) to sell to pay for FFs savings scheme………but as DUCHAS and Dev did not object to the run of the mill office blocks planned for to face the Gaol and other DUCHAS properties on all sides then it appears they would have no problem with a chocolate factory if it were planned to face the Royal Hospital / IMMA …..and on its own grounds !!

    • #720212
      notjim
      Participant

      To clarify, the article in the times only said that the sale of the lands was being considered, not that they were for sale, hopefully they will see sense before going any further. As for Greg F’s comments about apartments, the red brick one you can see from the gardens looking towards Phoenix park are really terrible. That was a pity too, it would have been possible to build quite substantial building in Islandbridge without damaging the view, but red brick pastiche wasn’t the thing.

    • #720213
      urbanisto
      Participant

      It never is it seems and yet thats all we are destined to get…

    • #720214
      Rory W
      Participant

      Ah yes privatisation – look at Eircom (which you already owned) being sold to you at an inflated price, and then being taken off you at a loss and sold to some of the richest people in the country with the majority of small shareholders absolutely over a barrell. And we put up with this!!!

      Coming soon – new apartment complex built by some dodgy developer in the Phoenix Park – oh did you not know we sold this (Govt attitude)

    • #720215
      Luke Gardnier
      Participant

      ‘Unused lands’ in intact and most unique 18th century setting been ‘considered’ for sale !!

      Someone saw this coming like an express train !!

      Originally posted by John Callery November 2000 as part of discussion topic – Office Blocks @ Kilmainham Gaol & Royal Hospital.

      {QUOTE}
      Latest news from Kilmainham is that Sile Dev Velera is anxious after she shifts Mr Mc Gonagle as curator of IMMA (cue presently under way) that she intends moving the IMMA to “the more fashionable docklands” this is a prelude to the opening up of the ancient lands of the Royal Hospital for “renewal and development” – more LEGO to be built – but now in the grounds of the Royal Hospital – we always suspected that these ancient massive inner city grounds would have “progressive developers” wishing – “if only we could get in there”. Now the way is being planned and without a doubt we shall read of some great plan in the future of ‘renewal’ !! to facilitate them in and over the wall from Kilmainham Gaol when the vacation of the IMMA is announced.{QUOTE}

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