Kilmainham Gaol development refused

Pretty indifferent myself

A most sensible result for the oldest and most historic district in the city. Well done The Friends of Kilmainham, An Taisce, Irish Georgian Society, History Group of the Teachers of Ireland, Irish Labour Party, Fine Gael, Sinn Fein, Michael Mulcahy recent Lord Mayor of Dublin and many more who spoke / presented a submission at the Oral Hearing. Kilmainham has been saved from Iowa Barns.

……..I heard through the grapevine that an 8 storey hotel and leisure complex is now planned for the site after the planners have revised their scheme……Developed by the same people who are responsible for the Four Season’s hotel in Ballsbridge….. it will include nearly up to 1000 hotel rooms, including restaurants, casino, leisure centre, gymnasium, swimming pool, sauna etc…and a Dr. Quirkeys/Disneyland style funderland……. based on a 1916 theme.
More appropriate no doubt for the area.

Lol – would serve them right…..

I heard they’re going to build a chocolate factory there – Can you imagine a chocolate factory opposite one of our greatest heritage sites? Its madness, even an office block would be better than that.

…….probably will end up being a derelict site for the next ten years or more.

Better than 3 crap hospital or ocean liner looking office blocks for the next 100 years, thank God this so greedy sheme hit an iceberg. Greg F.. you try way too hard at been one of the lads!! and at being an expert on everyone and everything.

……….you mean to say that it is better to have a derelict site than any sort of development………..your naivity shows.
You have implied that it is far more preferable to leave the site as it is…… derelict and an eyesore…. than have any sort of development that would bring life and money into the area.
Sounds as if your talking through your arse.

now lads!
I want a fair fight
no grabbing or biting
& definitely no handbags

so i saw in the paper during the week that the opw is thinking of selling off the unused land attached to the royal hospital. seems short sighted, i always assumed that they were saving it for another imma, cool, building in the far future when the collection outgrows the royal hospital. will the local residents association go the the mattress on this one too or will the be happy now they have stopped the offices opposite the gaol.

Now when was the government ever far-sighted in this country?

i’m presuming any planning permission that will block the view across the liffey from the gardens will be kiboshed though

Only if people are indifferent and allow it to happen….it gets better… now the magnificient ancient sence of containment that exists in the enclosed and so well maintained grounds of Kilmainham… this most unique open space/ inner city grounds and setting of Kilmainham and The Royal Hospital are for sale!! My word people would not be indifferent to this short and so blind prospect in any other European Capital City and right smack in its most ancient and historical district.

I bet they’ll build appartments there ……cramped and red brick and reeking of retro fantasy……..a big eyesore no doubt…..aka Blot on the Landscape, and to think IM Pei could have put a pyramid there……. We’ll just get a run of the mill over priced appartment scheme……for people who think they understand and like the modern arts……helping finance mismanager bogger Charlie McCreevy to pay off the national debts……where’s John Callery again to save the day and rile everyone up.

This is truly shocking……….. I thought and assumed these grounds were no-go…..its ours and not theirs (DUCHAS and OPW) to sell to pay for FFs savings scheme………but as DUCHAS and Dev did not object to the run of the mill office blocks planned for to face the Gaol and other DUCHAS properties on all sides then it appears they would have no problem with a chocolate factory if it were planned to face the Royal Hospital / IMMA …..and on its own grounds !!

To clarify, the article in the times only said that the sale of the lands was being considered, not that they were for sale, hopefully they will see sense before going any further. As for Greg F’s comments about apartments, the red brick one you can see from the gardens looking towards Phoenix park are really terrible. That was a pity too, it would have been possible to build quite substantial building in Islandbridge without damaging the view, but red brick pastiche wasn’t the thing.

It never is it seems and yet thats all we are destined to get…

Ah yes privatisation – look at Eircom (which you already owned) being sold to you at an inflated price, and then being taken off you at a loss and sold to some of the richest people in the country with the majority of small shareholders absolutely over a barrell. And we put up with this!!!

Coming soon – new apartment complex built by some dodgy developer in the Phoenix Park – oh did you not know we sold this (Govt attitude)

‘Unused lands’ in intact and most unique 18th century setting been ‘considered’ for sale !!

Someone saw this coming like an express train !!

Originally posted by John Callery November 2000 as part of discussion topic – Office Blocks @ Kilmainham Gaol & Royal Hospital.

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Latest news from Kilmainham is that Sile Dev Velera is anxious after she shifts Mr Mc Gonagle as curator of IMMA (cue presently under way) that she intends moving the IMMA to “the more fashionable docklands” this is a prelude to the opening up of the ancient lands of the Royal Hospital for “renewal and development” – more LEGO to be built – but now in the grounds of the Royal Hospital – we always suspected that these ancient massive inner city grounds would have “progressive developers” wishing – “if only we could get in there”. Now the way is being planned and without a doubt we shall read of some great plan in the future of ‘renewal’ !! to facilitate them in and over the wall from Kilmainham Gaol when the vacation of the IMMA is announced.{QUOTE}