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  • #707437
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Has anyone had a look at this site? It is presently one of the ads at the top of these pages.

    http://www.irishhousedesigns.com/twostorey.htm

    Sorry, Paul, I just realised I put this in the wrong page. Is there any way of moving it location to the Ireland section?

    #748002
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Down with this kind of thing.
    Hmmm think I’ll add them to the block list.

    #748003
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Don’t you just love the Liffey House, it has got as much design quality as it’s namesake that afflicted Tara St for years.

    It reminds me of something you would expect to see on the side of an Alabama golf course.

    #748004
    burge_eye
    Participant

    Originally posted by Paul Clerkin
    Down with this kind of thing.
    Hmmm think I’ll add them to the block list.

    Mother of God. Could the RIAI not block them from Ireland full stop?

    #748005
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I wasn’t sure if I could register my disgust or not considering that they were advertising here, but now I feel I can…:D

    I actually think that it is deeply worrying that this company exists and inflicts such absolute rubbish on our landscape. I wonder if anyone orders these from Ireland to be built somewhere else as ‘authentic’ Irish houses? The thing that then scared me was that these are quite rapidly becoming the typical Irish house!!

    #748006
    Mob79
    Participant

    Is it wrong to send a mail to this crowd? I deeply feel they need to be educated.
    Their website is even more offensive than their houses, how can these people be let build?

    #748007
    GrahamH
    Participant

    My personal favourite is the Laragh bungalow, with the Dee dormer hot on its heels – I never knew roofs could be so tall 🙂

    #748008
    Devin
    Participant

    Hundreds of applications for those houses come into An Taisce every week from all around the country. It’s very depressing looking through them. Most of them have to go in the bin instantly. The Heritage Officer can only deal with a tiny few – for example if the house is located in or close to an SAC or is on an elevated site or lakeshore.

    You can’t object to a house on design grounds or else you’re a ‘visual snob’. In fact, you can’t object/appeal a one-off house at all in Ireland cos then you are “persecuting” the people who applied for it (that’s what Roche said recently) – bizarre, isn’t it?

    #748009
    Frank Taylor
    Participant

    If people aren’t going to use architects when they build their own rural houses, should An Taisce publish a book of house designs that were
    -more aesthetically pleasing
    -more eco-friendly
    -more Irish
    than those found in a book like ‘Bungalow Bliss’?

    Maybe this is not An Taisce’s function but it might be a positive act rather than lamenting how God-awful all these bungalows look.

    #748010
    Devin
    Participant

    I have never heard An Taisce “lamenting how God-awful these bungalows look”. This is An T’s policy statement on one-off housing:

    http://www.antaisce.org/campaigns/policy_statements/RURAL%20BUILT%20ENV%20APP%20FINAL%2021.01.05.doc

    #748011
    Frank Taylor
    Participant

    Originally posted by Devin
    I have never heard An Taisce “lamenting how God-awful these bungalows look”.

    My apologies if this was unfair paraphrasing.

    #748012
    Devin
    Participant

    Anyway back to the topic. I agree mob 79 – with ‘The Liffey’ & the 2-storey ones esp. they should be tried for Crimes against Ireland.

    #748013
    Devin
    Participant

    As well as the SACs etc. mentioned, bungalows LOVE historic sites. They are attracted to them like flies on shite. Whether it’s a castle, an 18th century folly or a holy well, the nearer to a heritage site, the better.

    #748014
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I have been thinking about these sorts of buildings a lot over the last few weeks. Does anyone else think that it may now be possible to regard the prevalence of these sorts of buildings as our new vernacular?

    #748015
    burge_eye
    Participant

    Originally posted by phil
    I have been thinking about these sorts of buildings a lot over the last few weeks. Does anyone else think that it may now be possible to regard the prevalence of these sorts of buildings as our new vernacular?

    I assume you mean the architectural definition ie

    “Of or being an indigenous building style using local materials and traditional methods of construction and ornament, especially as distinguished from academic or historical architectural styles”.

    and, if so, God help us all.

    I prefer another definition ie

    “Occurring or existing in a particular locality; endemic: a vernacular disease”

    #748016
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Originally posted by burge_eye

    I assume you mean the architectural definition ie

    “Of or being an indigenous building style using local materials and traditional methods of construction and ornament, especially as distinguished from academic or historical architectural styles”.

    I suppose it is the fact that the prevelant style of bungalows and other rural housing is neither ‘academic’ or ‘historical’ that makes me think of this style as a sort of new vernacular.

    In language terms it is defined as follows:

    “The everyday language spoken by a people as distinguished from the literary language.”


    I prefer another definition ie

    “Occurring or existing in a particular locality; endemic: a vernacular disease”

    I like that one aswell

    ps, glad to see we are both using Dictionary.com!

    #748017
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    An approximation of the disclaimer on a similar site to the one that this thread is based upon wrote:
    COPYRIGHT NOTICE
    All rights reserved. No part of that website may be reproduced, or transmitted electronically withourt prior written permission from]

    I find their stance entirely understandable given the reaction to the number and scale of houses thrown up based upon these type of generic plans that make no effort whatsoever to take account of any sites hetrogenious characteristics.

    http://irish-house-plans.com/

    #748018
    JPD
    Participant

    The cheek of that copyright yoke how can they claim copyright on designs that are so devoid of any originality?

    #748019
    neiljdonn
    Participant

    I am the one responsible for the website http://www.irishhousedesigns.com I understand that the current designs are very basic and may not satisfy your requirements. However, these are the type of houses which most irish people can afford to build. Bespoke architectural design and high construction costs go hand in hand. Everyone is entitled to have their own house and they should not be condemned if they cannot afford an outstanding design.
    The liffey, dee and larah are weaker designs I must admit. However, I believe that the barrow, blackwater etc. are more closely linked with the Irish vernacular than some of the minamilist boxes which would be greatly praised as being great architecture. Surely a contemporary design will look even more out of place than the “liffey” in the irish countyside. ( As an aside the “liffey” was actually designed by a member of the RIAI, who donated the design)
    The site is currently offline. It will soon return. I the mean time, I am sorry to offend your delicate tastes, but we all need to make a living at the end of the day.

    #748020
    Mob79
    Participant

    What about modesty. Modesty doesn’t cost to much extra does it?

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