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    • #706454
      garethace
      Participant

      Does anyone here have names they find repetitive, stereo-typical, tired, worn-out, or down-right awful, even weird/bizarre? Post ’em here.

      I found this article today: Name Game

      Brian O’ Hanlon

    • #735874
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Try Kingsbry in Maynooth (and yes, I have spelt it correctly). Originally conceived and permission obtained by a developer called “King”, hence the megalomaniac name of the estate.

    • #735875
      J. Seerski
      Participant

      Out of these ten, I’d guess 99% of Ireland knows at least one….or lives in one!!!

      Willow Park
      Grove Park
      Pinewood
      The Fairways
      The Elms
      Oak Park
      The Copings
      Shrewsbury
      Ailesbury (Yes there is more than one!!!)
      The Copse

    • #735876
      J. Seerski
      Participant

      Irish placenames seem to have no ‘place’ in modern suburbia… 🙁

    • #735877
      GrahamH
      Participant

      A shoddy heap of steaming Tudoresque has gone up near me entitled ‘The Loaker’

      What in the name of holy mother of God is a loaker?

      Image having to say I live at no 3 The Loakers!

      If it meant sleeping on the street, I would’nt live there.

    • #735878
      garethace
      Participant

      There is a lot more out there, in our country, some seriously crazy ones too. Keep ’em coming though, we all do enjoy a good giggle.

    • #735879
      bluefoam
      Participant

      There is an estate in south Dublin called Farmleigh. A new development 2 miles away was to be called Fernleigh. After objections they renamed the new estate but used the name Fernleigh in another new development a few miles further away.

      If that is as creative they can get with naming houses how can we expect them to be capable of designing creative buildings.

    • #735880
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Monaghan has a few tree estates

      Ash Grove
      Elm Grove
      Beech Grove

    • #735881
      Rory W
      Participant

      Not an English Home Counties wannabe name, but I just love “Cyber Plains” in Leixlip

    • #735882
      garethace
      Participant

      shortening of words with the new universal Irish accent, to hide where you actually came from, was never my problem. 🙂

      There are some estates out in Kimmage called after lakes of Ireland, Neagh, Corrib, Melvin etc, etc. Quite simple, but I never guessed until a local person informed me, strange!

      Classes in schools too – Irish Saints etc.

      Old council estates, always freedom fighters etc.

    • #735883
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Originally posted by garethace

      Old council estates, always freedom fighters etc.

      Or in Mullingar, Dalton Park afer Cardinal Dalton.

    • #735884
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Council estates in Dundalk – I there’s about 3 Pearse Parks.

      I said Loaker earlier on – I meant Loakers – which is even worse.

      I looked it up in the dictionary – theres no such word!

    • #735885
      garethace
      Participant

      I think you will find it is the brand name of a very good quality, hand-made British leather shoe. I wore Loackers for almost 10 years and have excellent healthy feet now to prove it. So in my mind Loakers are great.

    • #735886
      Gabriel-Conway
      Participant

      Buried deep in the minutes of Dun Laoghaire Rathdown Council’s Transportation committee minutes from 2001, you will find a proposal that the (then still to be constructed) LUAS bridge in Dundrum should be named the “Blessed Abbot Marmion Bridge”

      That never came to pass, but not to be denied, whoever proposed the name had a second try – and the new bridge constructed to carry the Ballinteer Road over the Dundrum Bypass now has a plaque naming it as “Don Marmion Bridge”

      But back on the original thread of common names, there seem to be Grange Roads everywhere.

      Gabriel

    • #735887
      Mob79
      Participant

      Don’t forget “The Brambles”, which of course were bulldozed out.

    • #735888
      garethace
      Participant

      LOL!

    • #735889
      -Donnacha-
      Participant

      How about Coolock’s ‘Moonwalk’ streets (presumably built in 1969 or thereabouts) –

      Armstrong Walk,

      Aldrin Walk,

      Tranquility Grove (after The Sea Of).

      I’m sure there are more…

    • #735890
      el architino
      Participant

      in EL ARCHITINOs home city. there are may EL ARCHITINO grand boulevards

      do you have these in ireland?

    • #735891
      David Chambers
      Participant

      What about naming roads after politicians such as Oscar Traynor Road in Coolock or Tom Bellew Road in Dundalk? Could anyone tell me who Oscar Traynor was? I gather that he was a minister.

    • #735892
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Does anyone not yet know that the most-stolen signpost in England is the one in Kent indicating the way to the villages of

      Ham
      Sandwich

    • #735893
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      what about some of the maritime related names:

      Here is a few from Dun Laoghaire:
      Clearwater Cove (which overlooks the Coal Harbour)
      Marina View
      The Anchorage

      Or the renaming of Stack A to CHQ
      (What does CHQ stand for?)

    • #735894
      Andrew Duffy
      Participant

      Customs House Quay. More informative name than Stack A, I’d contend.

    • #735895
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Thanks for that. I would think it is because keeping the name ‘Stack A’ would not really have fitted in with the whole upmarket shopping image that it is going for. I think alot can be told by the renaming of either a building or a street.

    • #735896
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Being told aged twleve that I couldn’t post leaflets in a street in Harolds cross because it was a private road called corporation place

    • #735897
      Hiivaladan
      Participant

      The famous definition of a housing estate. A place where they cut the trees down and then name the streets after them.

    • #735898
      Barry Hall
      Participant

      There is a subhurb in Sydney called Killarney Heights where many of the streets have Irish names Donegal Road, Galway Avenue, Shamrock Parade etc. – I kid you not.

    • #735899
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Half of North London is either named after trees or Irish people or towns; I looked at a place on Ranelagh Road W5recently and in comparison to its namesake it was poor!!!

    • #735900
      John66
      Participant

      Then you have all those housing estates littered throughout the country called Kennedy Park, or similar.

      One thing I find rather annoying is the name of my local Luas stop; Blackhorse. It’s named after the Black Horse Inn, which is fine, as it has always been a major landmark for people driving in from the Naas Road, but changing it to a single word gives the impression that someone thought a name that sounds like a London Underground station might be less ‘common’. Besides, there’s already a Blackhorse Avenue at the other side of the city.

      I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before a Blackhorse Court apartment building makes an appearance.

    • #735901
      jackwade
      Participant

      [align=center:28xxtapc]The Irish Housing Estate Name Generator.

      Building a new development, but don't want to wear out your brain inventing an original or relevant name?

      At long last YOU can name an Irish housing estate the same way the professionals do!

      How it works: 1. Choose a random word from Column A
      2. Choose a random word from Column B
      3. You're Done!

      Column A

      Rock
      Pine
      St. Patrick's
      Wood
      Grange
      River
      Elm
      Pearse
      Forest
      Oak
      Stone
      Grove
      Fair
      Brehon
      St. Joseph's
      Rath
      Glen
      Dun
      Beech
      Brook
      Maple
      King's
      Meadow
      Hill
      Bally
      Summer
      Castle
      Copse
      Old
      Bel
      Wheat
      Cherry
      Ard
      Mount
      Clover
      Fox
      Spring
      Willow
      Carrig
      Ross
      Kil
      South
      Farm
      Abbey
      Temple

      Column B

      View
      Hall
      Field
      Brook
      Court
      Valley
      Gate
      Meadows
      Well
      Wood
      Villas
      Hill
      Abhainn
      Park
      Grange
      Mews
      Cross
      Gardens
      Quay
      Ford
      Downs
      Heights
      Lawns
      Side
      Dale
      Boro
      Vale
      Mere
      Mount
      Manor
      Orchard
      Ville
      More
      Grove
      Glen
      Green
      Lodge
      Bawn
      Square
      Cottages
      Abbey
      Point
      Ross
      Leigh
      Roan

      Examples: Maple Lawns, Castlewood etc.
      If your estate requires a 3 word name simply choose 3 words and join the first 2 together e.g Riverwood Court, Willowpark Grove etc.

      Congrat, you're ready to pave over the countryside![/align:28xxtapc]

    • #735902
      PTB
      Participant

      Brilliant scheme indeed Mr Jackwade, though not without its faults

      If your estate requires a 3 word name simply choose 3 words and join the first 2 together e.g Riverwood Court, Willowpark Grove etc.

      Eg. St Patrick’sSt Joseph’sboro
      Glenbally Glen.

      No-one seems to have mentioned the Irish names which are just as crappily pieced together. A development in my locality is called Páirc na gCapaill even though the previous owner of the land tells us that there has been nothing but tillage on the land for the past twenty years. The main reason I don’t like them is because they seem far too fabricated, despite their attempt to be more ‘authentic’ than the more anglicised placenames

    • #735903
      Barry Hall
      Participant

      Street name in Dungarvan in an area known locally as Lands End – wait for it Finister Lawn

    • #735904
      Jem Von Tirpitz
      Participant

      @David Chambers wrote:

      Could anyone tell me who Oscar Traynor was? I gather that he was a minister.

      He was among our nation’s founders, and a good foreign games man to boot. Read some books.

    • #735905
      alonso
      Participant

      http://www.politics.ie/wiki/index.php?title=Oscar_Traynor

      I believe I won the Oscar traynor Cup aged 10 or 11 in the North Dublin League. I thought it was named after the road, unaware of the man himself. Well at that age!

    • #735906
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      A long-established plant nursery outside Kenmare became known to all and sundry locally as “The Glasshouses.” When the inevitable sale and redevelopment came about, the new address became “Pairc na Gloinne” (“the park of glass” for the non-gaelgoiri.)

      Other gems are Orchard Grove Court, and at Sneem one called Atlantic Gateway, not within an ass’ roar of the sea, let alone the Atlantic, and built facing a mountain.
      KB2

    • #735907
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      @KerryBog2 wrote:

      …and at Sneem one called Atlantic Gateway, not within an ass’ roar of the sea, let alone the Atlantic, and built facing a mountain.

      @The Urban Forum wrote:

      Urban Forum Calls For Review of the National Spatial Strategy

      Greater Dublin will soon occupy the same surface area as Los Angeles, but with less than a quarter of its population, the Urban Forum warned today (Tuesday, 13 February 2007). In this context, the Forum is calling on whoever forms the next Government to develop a review of the National Spatial Strategy with the central objective of developing the Atlantic Gateway to counter-balance Dublin.

      Looks like the canny folk of the Kingdom are one step ahead of The Planners Up In Dublin yet again. 🙂

      (From here: http://www.riai.ie/index.html?id=7219)

      *** *** ***

      Strange that the ‘surname’ of my road doesn’t feature on the list posted by jackwade – the oh-so-suburban Close – though the first half is present and correct.

    • #735908
      PTB
      Participant

      @KerryBog2 wrote:

      A long-established plant nursery outside Kenmare became known to all and sundry locally as “The Glasshouses.” When the inevitable sale and redevelopment came about, the new address became “Pairc na Gloinne” (“the park of glass” for the non-gaelgoiri.)

      Other gems are Orchard Grove Court, and at Sneem one called Atlantic Gateway, not within an ass’ roar of the sea, let alone the Atlantic, and built facing a mountain.
      KB2

      Did it even have a gate?

      I do remember my Irish teacher rambling on about some inaccurate or downright wrong translations of english language placenames. I cant remember exactly the examples he gave us, but one was something like there being a field called Littlerock and it was changed into ‘An Carraigín’, which is the word for carrageen moss.

    • #735909
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @PTB wrote:

      …….a field called Littlerock and it was changed into ‘An Carraigín’, which is the word for carrageen moss.

      I think it would be stretching it a bit to limit An Carraigin just to the moss. Even better than that is the way the French have appropriated it. Anglicized as carrigeen, it is used as a thickening ingredient in yoghurt. Dannone print it in French as “carrighene,” complete with accent.:confused:

      Does anyone know if the craze for Italian names (Sorrento,Vico, Torca, etc.) in Dalkey created any furore in the 1800’s?? I
      While I think of it, Barnhill is a big contributor in Dalkey, also with its Gaelic derrivative, Saval.
      KB2

    • #735910
      djasmith
      Participant

      The roads in 1930’s Crumlin are called after monastic related ‘stuff’ for want of a better explination. All except for Captains Road.

      Drimnagh are named after Mountains.

      My own Ravensdale Drive is named after one of the many mills which once lined the banks of the poddle river, along with Larkfield Road….

      The estates up in Templeogue are named after local houses eg Orwell, Rossmore, Kennington, Osprey, all of which can be traced back a long way according to Handcocks history of Templeogue / Tallaght.

      Wellington Lane (templeogue) is named after the Duke of wellington, however Willington was a variation on that due to some of the locals being very anti british… Similar to the case of part of Exchequar street being renamed to Wicklow street to increase rents…. (correct me on that please Ive only half heard the story)…

      The liberties comes from Henry the 8th granting the people from this area the LIBERTY to trade both inside and outside the pale, while not paying the taxes of the pale…

      A very interesting one is whitehall road in Terenure…. The irish on the road is ‘Bóthar na Racadair’ (recorders road),,,,, a small little extension to the road into the old kimmage manor was then named ‘The Recorders’…

      There are so so many more around my area its a list i muct compile!

    • #735911
      Blisterman
      Participant

      Not all house names in Dublin are unoriginal.
      There’s a house in Clonskeagh called “Muff”.

    • #735912
      Devin
      Participant

      One end of the mews lane behind Beresford Place, Dublin 1, reads “Frenchman’s Lane” and the other end reads “Frenchmen’s Lane”.

    • #735913
      sw101
      Participant

      @Devin wrote:

      One end of the mews lane behind Beresford Place, Dublin 1, reads “Frenchman’s Lane” and the other end reads “Frenchmen’s Lane”.

      there is no plural or possessive version of “frenchmen” so the latter is obviously a typo or the result of a moron making signs.

    • #735914
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @Devin wrote:

      One end of the mews lane behind Beresford Place, Dublin 1, reads “Frenchman’s Lane” and the other end reads “Frenchmen’s Lane”.

      The old street directories always give it as Frenchman’s Lane
      Kb

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