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    • #704974
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      “It is intended that the external appearance of the building will be in keeping with the architectural character of Ballsbridge “

      Okay can someone explain how?

    • #715933
      LOB
      Participant

      methinks that these words are a desperate effort to placate-very planning report/EIS speak.
      but when taken on their own-with the likes of the sweepstakes site, that new monster hotel,…..Help!

    • #715934
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Originally posted by Paul Clerkin

      “It is intended that the external appearance of the building will be in keeping with the architectural character of Ballsbridge “

      Okay can someone explain how?

      Classic 😉

    • #715935
      JL
      Participant

      Well it does kind of fit in with the sweepstakes business park.

    • #715936
      Anonymous
      Participant

      From that angle it dominates the Sweepstakes entirely standing two storeys higher.

      The Sweepstakes is reasonably well designed in so much as the buildings to the front were designed to minimise their effect on the existing streetscape. Which this image entirely ignores for example the terrace of Shops that includes the Sony Centre and Paddy Cullens pub. Not to mention the internationally important RDS buildings.

      When the developers of the Sweepstakes had to go up they had the decency to use the front buildings as a setback. The three blocks have quite a good form and if it wasn’t for that awful polished granite I would quite like them.

      The statement was hot air

    • #715937
      d_d_dallas
      Participant

      “It is intended that the external appearance of the building will be in keeping with the architectural character of Ballsbridge “

      The architectural character of Ballsbrige is no character. Seriously, at this stage I think you could build anythig down there and it would have zero impact.

    • #715938
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Originally posted by d_d_dallas
      The architectural character of Ballsbrige is no character. Seriously, at this stage I think you could build anythig down there and it would have zero impact.

      There have been a lot of bad developments around Ballsbridge over the years, particularly Carrisbrook House, Hume House, and the surprisingly recent Four Seasons development.

      Then again some of the modern stuff sits very well with a residential conservation area such as Landsdowne House, Texaco House, Herbert Park Hotel Scheme, Bewleys conversion of Prior house and the American Embassy.

      But on balance you could be right about that side of the Merrion Road, it is difficult with the front of the sweepstakes and the Bankcentre to talk about character but that one would have made it a lot worse, it would have been equal to the 4 seasons on the section at Simmonscourt RD.

    • #715939
      GrahamH
      Participant

      Agreed, with some exceptions, Ballsbridge has little character anymore, with the exception of wealth of course, which oozes out of even the worst of buildings.

      Watching bits of the Horse Show there at the weekend, the Four Seasons was unfortunately evident looming over the stands – bearing an uncomfortable resemblance to the flagship Disneyland Hotel outside Paris. All it needs are some trees clipped into mouse ears 🙂

    • #715940
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      I still love Frank McDonald’s description of the Four Seasons: looking like nothing so much as the bastard offspring of Citizen Kane’s Xanadu”.

      According to the Four Seasons Hotel, this horrendous building “combines both Georgian and Victorian architectural styles”. The architect Mr Chun summarised his work as “an interpretation of the Georgian as well as a bit of the Victorian and somewhat contemporised”.

    • #715941
      vinnyfitz
      Participant

      An ABP decision on the doubling of the scale of the AIB HQ is due any time now.

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