Goodbye to poolbeg?

and thanks for all the (dead) fish.

get rid of them, goodbye!

Aww all they need is a good clean.

But wait we should turn them into a …………. viewing platform!!!!!!

Smithfield, Gravity bar, The two wheels, The cable car, That 32 story beside heuston, thats just not enough viewing platforms for a completely flat city like Dublin!

Knock em. They are chimneys ffs.

@Yixian wrote:

Aww all they need is a good clean.

True.

But that would only highlight the red and white icons even more.

I’m surprised the people of Dublin tolerated the Cork colours imposed on the two tallest structures in the city for so long.

Wouldn’t happen in Tralee.

Perhaps they should be kept. The Dublin footballers could use them as goalposts for target practice.

But are they wide enough apart ?

@Global Citizen wrote:

True.

But that would only highlight the red and white icons even more.

I’m surprised the people of Dublin tolerated the Cork colours imposed on the two tallest structures in the city for so long.

Wouldn’t happen in Tralee.

Perhaps they should be kept. The Dublin footballers could use them as goalposts for target practice.

But are they wide enough apart ?

do you do jokes as well?

@marmajam wrote:

do you do jokes as well?

Haha, genius:D:D:D

As for the poolbegs chimneys there is not a hope they will be knocked, ye know that as well as i do.

Top them with glittering onion domes like hundertwassers incinerator
http://www.hotelsbycity.net/blog/eur_austria_vienna/files/2007/06/fernwarme_wien.jpg

Or create some self powered windmills that light up at night, bit of imagination, some swirling lollipop effect turbines, some neon whirlimigigs….

Maybe a bit to interesting, suppose best just keep to the dublin eye.

@Global Citizen wrote:

I’m surprised the people of Dublin tolerated the Cork colours imposed on the two tallest structures in the city for so long.

I’d love to see someone trying to plead the case that a light and dark blue motif would make the chimneys nice and visible to planes, set against the sky… 😀

They should keep them, gut the station and turn it into a big post industrial cultural centre where artists, musicians, designers etc get to be messy and creative for minimal rents, similar to the Tacheles in Berlin.

I love the huge spaces associated with power plants like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunsthaus_Tacheles

It’d be cheap, easy and could form the future heart of any wider redevelopment into the future.

As for the towers, like them or loathe them they are iconic – personally I’m very fond of them and would hate to see them go.

Put NAMA out there seeing as we are going to be burning €90 billion anyway.

vindmills ?

Knockem down. Stick up a Cloossus of Biffo with his Moobs spanning the mouth of the harbour.

And of course stick nama down there.

After all if all our money is going to be in nama, also stick a new “city” there to. Rename Irish town Tara or something and bring in all the tourist to a big public space dedicated to Biffos unelected saving of our nation.

Model it after Soviet Squares and use our magnificant in all the Iconography of the development….

The Harbour may be important, but Poolbeg isn’t. So the space can be used. As for what who knows?

Maybe a MASSIVE aquarium as part of a cultural area is best. Not housing or offices, Civic space?

But then again there’s all those toxic chemicals…. Rendering it effectively useless.

Can we have a poll?

I’m fond of the chimneys too, probably just because they’ve been a part of the Dublin scenery all my life, though it’s hard to defend their architectural value in any sensible way. If they were being destroyed I’d like to see a replacement slender tower-type landmark structure put up in their place.

If they were being destroyed I’d like to see a replacement slender tower-type landmark structure put up in their place.

Yes, a gateway to Dublin…..:rolleyes:

its all about what replaces them

@lostexpectation wrote:

its all about what replaces them

Which will be nothing. The U2 tower will be long established on the city skyline before a sod is turned in Poolbeg.

@fergalr wrote:

Which will be nothing. The U2 tower will be long established on the city skyline before a sod is turned in Poolbeg.

I agree. I think we’ve got to think outside the box on this one.

Its gonna be a long long time before there’ll be the money/incentive to build something here so I reckon we need to think about the best re-use with the least demolition. (Do i smell a competition brewing).

@reddy wrote:

I agree. I think we’ve got to think outside the box on this one.

Its gonna be a long long time before there’ll be the money/incentive to build something here so I reckon we need to think about the best re-use with the least demolition. (Do i smell a competition brewing).

Well there’s no need to knock the chimneys any time soon… the ESB is hardly holding them in place on a daily basis – like Atlas. And yeah we should use the next 5-10 years of mediocre growth (if we’re lucky) to properly plan out what to do with the vast expanse of Poolbeg and the southside of the Liffey mouth.

But we won’t. Because we don’t understand how to create urban spaces. We just don’t. Something in our rural DNA.

I wouldn’t take such a negative view;you’d go along way to see a better masterplan than
Adamstown from greenfield to complete community.

Major issue down there is transport or more relevantly lack of train/tram and the difficulty of getting tram to the location given the options are Ringsend Village with its narrow streets and listed buildings or via the Eastlink which is already congested.

There are better sites to develop in the short term but a little land take reservation in plans from here on in and the development frontier will arrive in due course but even from
the bottle site they are a very long way down.

Bank of Ireland should buy the chimneys and paint them in Leinster colours

@PVC King wrote:

Bank of Ireland should buy the chimneys and paint them in Leinster colours

The winning county of the annual all-Ireland hurling and football finals should get their colours up there on each chimney. Hopefully Cork win both first and save us a year.

Transport can be solved through a combination of Macken St bridge and the planned bridge from Hanover quay to the south port via Britain Quay to York Rd/East link toll area. That can carry a tram and buses. And the bus service through Ringsend can certainly be improved if a new route via Sean Moore Rd and Church st/ Garda station is put in place, there’s only a handful through the village even in rush hour. There is an issue with Ringsend bridge which really could do with widening (although it may be protected). There is also potential to build a bridge from this area to the north port (yes another Liffey bridge. Anything is possible on a relatively blank canvas….

Ringsend and Bath Avenue are major blockages to accessing Poolbeg from the City centre, esepcially the SE of the city but there are options such as Luas loops – one way at choke points etc at Bath Avenue or Tritonville Road via Church Rd…

who knows

Wait for the Bart
” A high quality bus-based public transport system with low environmental impact vehicles would serve the area.” It’s a GPS based Luas style system on bus wheels basically

http://www.tribune.ie/business/news/article/2009/may/31/the-battle-for-the-development-of-poolbeg-hots-up/

The port also said that one of the zones earmarked for residential development is unsuitable. “Such use is not compatible with port activity… noise, light pollution and 24-hour operational character of the port would impact adversely on any future residents”. They also pointed out there was a proposal to locate a cruise terminal facility in that location and the noise levels from generators on the cruise ships would be intolerable for residents. “The area is therefore wholly unsuitable for residential development.”

I was down there for five hours early one June morning to do a piece on the port for my dissertation, from about 2:00AM till 7:00AM and it is absolutely non-stop activity. I couldn’t agree more. You couldn’t stick apartments over at Poolbeg as long as there’s a large, active port two hundred metres away across the Liffey.

@fergalr wrote:

The winning county of the annual all-Ireland hurling and football finals should get their colours up there on each chimney. Hopefully Cork win both first and save us a year.

Bit late for that. Galway knocked them out of the hurling last month.

I like the idea though, and although they’ll never win an All Ireland, I think the chimneys would look great in the Carlow colours:eek: