Gee, I really want to access this one. . .
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January 15, 2004 at 7:55 pm #706738garethaceParticipant
A fortress to common folk, at usual times. 🙂
http://www.irish-architecture.com/aai/events/data/1074162756.html
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January 15, 2004 at 7:56 pm #739497garethaceParticipant
Huh? ? ? ?
Bring hard hat, site boots and his visibility vest.
Some light demolision work? 🙂
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January 15, 2004 at 9:42 pm #739498AnonymousParticipant
Timeless quality you wouldn’t know if the windows were for archers or if it was from part of the Maginot line.
A building of exceptional quality 😉
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January 15, 2004 at 9:48 pm #739499niall murphyParticipant
why does it say bring hard hat etc???? The library has been open for the best part of 2 years. The official opening was last april or something!!
Maybe its lookin at some other construction in TCD
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January 16, 2004 at 3:13 pm #739500garethaceParticipant
Naw, my best guess is that the guys in the AAI are still grappling with information technology, as we all still are to some degree or another. I just am glad of the service the AAI now provide online. Thumbs up guys.
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January 16, 2004 at 3:25 pm #739501ro_GParticipant
I dont like the way the floors are laid out in there at all. The open drop in the middle is not practical in the slightest – a great disapointment when i got an access card and got to go inside
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January 16, 2004 at 3:32 pm #739502garethaceParticipant
Well I am a big fan of Trinity in general, and how it fits in with the city really well in parts, or not so well in others. I think O’Donnell and Tuomey have some master plan up around the Beckett.
What I would be interested in inexperiencing though, is the underground walking link between the Berkley and the new building. You can normally only look down through the sky lights and see the people underneath moving about.
Before anyone really makes a full judgement on this building though, it is essential to see it from the cricket pavilion and that general direction at nightime – as it really does form a definite edge or boundary to what was once a less defined edge to the cricket grounds.
Anyone remember that old lump of timber sculpture that used to be there? Ahhhh, the days…. 🙂
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January 16, 2004 at 11:09 pm #739503ro_GParticipant
Originally posted by garethace
What I would be interested in inexperiencing though, is the underground walking link between the Berkley and the new building. You can normally only look down through the sky lights and see the people underneath moving about.nowt special to be honest
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January 17, 2004 at 12:27 pm #739504AnonymousInactive
Originally posted by garethace
Anyone remember that old lump of timber sculpture that used to be there? Ahhhh, the days…. 🙂
The Michael Warren sculpture has been moved to trees beside the Pavillion. It looks really good there. I never saw it in its original position though.
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January 17, 2004 at 6:15 pm #739505garethaceParticipant
Originally posted by ro_G
nowt special to be honest
Not the underneath bit, but the fact alone, that the overhead bit can become a real public area, instead of just being a flat roof area.
I don’t know why UCD campus hasn’t adopted more semi-subterranean links to unify buildings together, while still allowing more people to walk around ontop.
Michael Warren eh? I lilke the one iln Kilmainham and a couple he did in South America, but I must look out for the new position of that one.
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January 17, 2004 at 6:33 pm #739506Paul ClerkinKeymaster
I quite like the spaces between the Ussher and Berekely libraries and the arts block… quiet zones in the city..
http://www.archeire.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/trinity/ussher_library_lge.html
http://www.archeire.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/trinity/ussher_library2_lge.html
http://www.archeire.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/trinity/berkeley_side_lge.html
http://www.archeire.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/trinity/berkeley_front3_lge.html
http://www.archeire.com/buildings_ireland/dublin/southcity/trinity/arts_block_lge.html
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January 17, 2004 at 6:55 pm #739507garethaceParticipant
I think you would like Louis Kahn then, there is a book called Unbuilt Master works or something about Kahn, where they digitally re-created alot of his big projects that were never actually built.
http://www.cgarchitect.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000427
http://www.cgarchitect.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000455
using Lightscape Radiosity rendering technology.
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January 19, 2004 at 12:18 pm #739508AnonymousInactive
Must say the second group of those Khan photos look amazing.
With regards to Michael Warren, there is a bit of controversy over his piece in Dun Laoghaire. I think it looks really good when there is no one around, such as early in the morning when there the sun shines through it.
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January 19, 2004 at 3:51 pm #739509garethaceParticipant
I must keep an eye out for it, didn’t know he had one there too. Is it wood?
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January 19, 2004 at 3:54 pm #739510AnonymousInactive
No, its of rusted metal. It is two pieces sticking up out of the ground at the entrance to the metals walkway. I think it is called Millenium Arches. I will try to find a picture for you.
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January 19, 2004 at 3:58 pm #739511garethaceParticipant
didn’t I see some new competition for a pier out there during the summer too? One of the newspapers had shots.
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January 19, 2004 at 4:04 pm #739512AnonymousInactive
There is a bit of a promotional piece about it at the following link if you are interested. There is also a fairly poor photo of it as well.
http://www.dlrcoco.ie/gp/sculpt_press.HTM
The competition is for the redevelopment of the Carlisle Pier. There was another thread devoted to it as far as I remember. There are now four entrants left in the competition. As far as I remember they are Henegan-Peng, SOM, Libeskinde and Scott Tallon Walker.
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January 19, 2004 at 4:53 pm #739513garethaceParticipant
Yeah, I new there were some chart toppers in there. 🙂
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January 21, 2004 at 1:38 pm #739514AnonymousInactive
That space between the two libraries is great. There is very rarely anyone there which gives it a sort of eerily quiet feeling.
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January 21, 2004 at 5:23 pm #739515garethaceParticipant
Something which I never experienced going to college myself, in Bolton Street, was that whole notion of exterior spaces separating things like Libraries, canteens, laboratories, sports facilities, bars, bike parking, churches, residences etc.
I mean, the outdoors rooms in Trinity actually perform the same function as corridors and foyers, in a normal one-block institution like Bolton Street. It is interesting, because given the climate here in Ireland, everyone thinks that outdoors is bad – outdoors is wet, outdoors is dangerous, dark and un-inviting.
But O’Donnell and Tuomey even built a house in Athlone, where the corridor became an outdoor space literally and Trinity sort of works the same. I find UCD campus on the other hand, doesn’t have the same density yet – but given a couple of masterplans, thesis projects and inventness of architects – will some day I have no doubt.
I am always conscious when looking at visualisations and photos of American campuses or business parks, by the acres of space around buildings. I think that, in turn draws the focus of the American architect to interior spaces a lot more than in Europe.
I mean, because in America, you really need to be a fit, jogging, outdoor, treker, lumberjack type to hack walking from building to builing – not the short skirted type wearing brown seude botties in Trinity college – I think in American facilities they probably have grander interiors – so you don’t have to brave the outdoors as much.
Same in Finland, there is practically forests growing between various buildings. Dunno if that could ever work in Belfield somehow – especially given the very dodgy nature of transport services. It is a real pity the LUAS did not pick up a university or two.
What Luas did pick up though, was this huge, highly secured mega-techno park, banking, enterprise wonder world that is called the Sandyford Industrial Estate.
I was walking around there last autumn photographing some of the nice new buildings out there, walking along a public road/thoroughfare, not far from Leopardstown race course – minding my own business – I think I was looking at a FKL building, or what looked like something FKL would do, when suddenly these heavies ambushed me ‘MTV Jackass style’ out of nowhere, and asked me my life story!
Come’on guys! Is that Berties is building with all of our hard earned Euros. I once had a bicycle stolen in Trinity, but I was never ambushed.
UCD campus is not as bad as that – I like the way that sports field are sort of integrated into the ‘campus’, the ‘environment’. Because they are specifically public in nature – But Sandyford industrial estate just freaks me out. And it gets a f*** 1 Billion LUAS right up to its doorstep? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
I dunno, DCU as well, but perhaps someone else has an opinion.
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January 22, 2004 at 10:05 am #739516Andrew DuffyParticipant
It’s not really Irish Rail’s fault that the Sandyford estate was built beside the Harcourt Street train line and UCD wasn’t. There is a line planned to go past DCU, isn’t there?
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January 22, 2004 at 1:59 pm #739517garethaceParticipant
No, but given big business gets so much better service in this country in general. . . . why was all UCD moved to Belfield to begin with?
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January 22, 2004 at 8:09 pm #739518GrahamHParticipant
To get away from the Prods in Trinity apparently…
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January 22, 2004 at 10:02 pm #739519garethaceParticipant
Okay, a valid argument back then I guess.
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January 23, 2004 at 9:36 am #739520Paul ClerkinKeymaster
McQuaid feared the ungodly influence of the Trinity students on his innocent virginal country students….
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January 23, 2004 at 9:39 am #739521FINParticipant
how true!!!!! ha,ha…
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January 23, 2004 at 10:39 am #739522AnonymousInactive
Didn’t Frank McDonald call it and Vincents Hospital the ‘Catholic Axis’ or something like that?
Must say I really like Belfield Campus, there are some great buildings there. The two new ones in particular. I also love that suspended covered walkway between the Arts Block and the Administration Building.
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January 23, 2004 at 5:47 pm #739523garethaceParticipant
Meet at podium of the Berkeley Library @ 10:45 – 11.00 on 24th January. Bring hard hat, site boots and his visibility vest. Do not enter the building until representative from McCullough Mulvin has arrived.
Still confused. ?????
Is that gear necessary now, for some insurance reason or something?
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January 23, 2004 at 5:49 pm #739524AnonymousInactive
Maybe they are going to bring you to another building that they are also involved in aswell. Is there any other buildings which they are doing nearby, either on the campus or in its near vacinity?
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January 23, 2004 at 6:03 pm #739525AnonymousParticipant
yep all that gear is required for insurance reasons when entering any construction site …
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January 23, 2004 at 6:05 pm #739526garethaceParticipant
But what still doesn’t make sense, is that fact, that no construction site is where the site visit it. I have no probs bringing that stuff, but really, if it isn’t needed. . . why carry it around town!
One would look pretty silly.
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January 23, 2004 at 7:39 pm #739527AnonymousInactive
That is true, very true.
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January 23, 2004 at 7:43 pm #739528garethaceParticipant
I know, that in Trinity they appreciate eccentric bunches of flourescent clad architect types walking around, like some kind of fashion week statement or something.
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January 23, 2004 at 8:05 pm #739529helloinsaneParticipant
Fluorescent clad? What ever happened to the black poloneck?
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January 23, 2004 at 8:09 pm #739530AnonymousParticipant
McNamaras were up to something big on Lincoln Place during the summer.
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January 23, 2004 at 8:22 pm #739531garethaceParticipant
what about black polonecks and flourescent outerwear? 🙂
One could do something really Sci-Fi and Blade Runner looking.
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January 26, 2004 at 1:41 pm #739532AnonymousInactive
Did you go in the end Garethace, or anyone else for that matter? What were the flourescent jackets and boots need for in the end?
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January 26, 2004 at 3:34 pm #739533garethaceParticipant
No, I was dragged out to UCD for an open day about doing an Arts degree at nightime – I guess sometimes, relationships require a certain level of commitment eh? 🙂
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